Swords in the Moon [Concluded]

[ajaxfetish]

As for cases, assuming Beskar reported accurately, ajaxfetish's observed activities early in the game, while telling, did not carry much weight because he could have had a pro-town role. However, now that all the (known) pro-town roles are dead, his activities seem to hang a "bad guy" sign around his neck.

First of all, it was Stephen Asen who accused me in the early game. Second, I denied having a pro-town special role then . . . because I don't have one. I explained my actions from the beginning as a personal role-play, because I didn't expect to live too long based on my previous game and didn't want to get too bored with the night phases.

That said, I have no idea who's guilty, so I'm just as expendable as any of our few remaining townies.

Ajax

[Beskar]

Ichigo's sarcastic style is a confession of him being a mafia-role.

[Gregoshi]

You are right ajaxfetish, it was Stephen. My bad. I've little to go on as far as guilt too. But what are your thoughts on the various FoS's that have been tossed out? Surely you must have some thought on the rightness or wrongness of at least ONE of them (besides your own). Give us a hand please.

Ichigo, I have nothing against you. You are Glorious. However, you are alive and thus a prime candidate for being bad Glorious. Sorry, but life sucks, as they say. Unfortunately, death sucks more.

AD, I'm talking about Chimpyang since he "returned" yesterday. "I'm back!" and then...nothing.

Gotta run and get food. I'm "cooking" tonight.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ichigo's sarcastic style is a confession of him being a mafia-role.

Explain. I would like to hear this out.

[Csargo]

Ichigo's sarcastic style is a confession of him being a mafia-role.

You spent the whole first half of the game saying you were innocent and expecting everyone to believe you, but now you don't believe me. Attacking everyone who voted against you and just kept repeating "I'm innocent" when no one had a reason to believe you. Even though BG investigated you that doesn't make you innocent. The likelyhood of Andres giving the ninja-master the ability to fool an investigation is pretty high I think, possibly some of the ninja.

[Beskar]

While all you do is not say much and if anyone accuses you. "Yay for me!" "why me dedz :(" etc you aren;t taking it seriously.

[GeneralHankerchief]

How does that relate to mafia-esque behavior though? Just because you're not taking something seriously doesn't mean you're automatically a villain. If anything, I, as a villain, would take things even more seriously because I know one misstep means you're screwed.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

BTW beskar, I'd like to point out that in mafia, failing 99% of the time does not lead to success.

[TinCow]

Lynch Beskar. Anyone who emphasize their own innocence unprompted every single day needs to have that theory tested in reality.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Lynch Beskar. Anyone who emphasize their own innocence unprompted every single day needs to have that theory tested in reality.

[Beskar]

WIFOM Terrority. Innocent people stop when security say halt, guilty don't.

[Husar]

Yeah, but he's not posted anything in 20 hours since his "return". That's not helping the cause.

We are down to the end game and there is a surprising lack of interest in the game from too many of the players that are still alive. Or so it seems. Is this normal? What am I missing about strategy at this point of the game that would account for the silence?

It's not necessarily a lack of interest, keep in mind the ninjas also have some considerable voting power in the end game and a lack of discussion means more confused townies, more wrong lynches etc. In other words, they'll probably win anyway because most of the discussion at the moment looks to me like "I'm right!" - "No, I'm right!" - "No, you're all wrong and I'm right!" with hardly anything to go by, if you're going to believe everyone who says they're innocent then we probably have eliminated the ninjas already.
That's the funny thing about Beskar saying he is innocent and then calling that evidence, he has a bit more of a case since BG's list so I think he is being framed now as he caught suspicion before and is generally acting a bit annoying but that alone doesn't make him guilty, if he had his friends kill everyone on the list except himself, that would have been an incredibly stupid move but here we are at vodka in front of my horse again as they could have calculated exactly that, blablabla, still a daring move though so he might deserve to win if that was the plan(and they're most likely going to win now anyway as noone has an idea and everybody is/plays confused, discussions are being ignored etc.).

Whether anyone is acting normal or not according to Sasaki I wouldn't go by that, I personally remember Ichigo as one of the two most active players in mafia games and especially Kage would not show anything as he is one of the best mafiosi/ninjas around. I'm not sure about dutch_guy but I remember people saying he'd be more active towards the end which doesn't really seem to be the case here, yet sasaki says he is acting normal.
Some of the others I've never played mafia games with before so it's hard to say much about them, could be anything, hard to say anything about them for me.

So in the end I'd say everybody who tries to focus on Beskar, except Sasaki, is somewhat supicious, lynching Ichigo might be a good idea for now.

[Beskar]

The Mafia plan is simple, they will kill all the innocents bar myself, then when I am the only innocent left, they will go "lol, try to get out of this now" and any other innocents would just join the bandwagon against me and ensure they win. That is the Mafia tactic and the reason I am still in the game. It is thanks to people who are on the dimmer side of the light bulb which are obsessed with lynching me which allows it to happen in the mafia's favour. In other words, Mafia-role want to purposely have suspicions against me and use me as their scape-goat.

Magical.

That is how I have been in the game so long and it is what I purposely played to in the beginning. Hell, I even said it near the beginning, go and read it.

So in the end I'd say everybody who tries to focus on Beskar, except Sasaki, is somewhat supicious, lynching Ichigo might be a good idea for now.

Exactly.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That's why we should lynch rhyfelwyr today.

[Csargo]

Whether anyone is acting normal or not according to Sasaki I wouldn't go by that, I personally remember Ichigo as one of the two most active players in mafia games and especially Kage would not show anything as he is one of the best mafiosi/ninjas around. I'm not sure about dutch_guy but I remember people saying he'd be more active towards the end which doesn't really seem to be the case here, yet sasaki says he is acting normal.
Some of the others I've never played mafia games with before so it's hard to say much about them, could be anything, hard to say anything about them for me.

Husar when was the last time you played a mafia game with me?

[Beskar]

That's why we should lynch rhyfelwyr today.

"Lynch Beskar! Lynch Rhyfelwyr! That is it, Lynch Everybody!!!"

[Sasaki Kojiro]

"Lynch Beskar! Lynch Rhyfelwyr! That is it, Lynch Everybody!!!"

You just confessed to being mafia.

[GeneralHankerchief]

But Beskar, wasn't there a stretch when you had relatively little suspicion on you?

[Beskar]

You just confessed to being mafia.

Yes, because doing an impression of you, is obviously a confession. You know, since lynching happens at the end of the day phase and you keep saying to lynch people randomly.

But Beskar, wasn't there a stretch when you had relatively little suspicion on you?

I always had some one vote for me on every round. Little suspicion would imply 2 votes opposed to 7 on some rounds. People just like to bandwagon. You know, having evidence you are innocent, having pro-town roles having to investigate you and turn up innocent, and probably even Kami saying I am innocent won't even let people accept the fact I am. Hell, even if I get killed by the mafia tonight, they will still say I am not innocent.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Challenge: Rhyfelwyr

-edit- Woo, 2000!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Beskar, you never responded to my comment about your user title.

[Beskar]

Remember Rule #1

[FactionHeir]

And everyone seems to ignore my accusations

[KukriKhan]

The Mafia plan is simple, they will kill all the innocents bar myself, then when I am the only innocent left, they will go "lol, try to get out of this now" and any other innocents would just join the bandwagon against me and ensure they win. That is the Mafia tactic and the reason I am still in the game. It is thanks to people who are on the dimmer side of the light bulb which are obsessed with lynching me which allows it to happen in the mafia's favour. In other words, Mafia-role want to purposely have suspicions against me and use me as their scape-goat.

Magical.

That is how I have been in the game so long and it is what I purposely played to in the beginning. Hell, I even said it near the beginning, go and read it.

The bolded bit is the reason "people... are obsessed with lynching (you)...".

On my personal Kindergarten Report Card, you get

A+ for participation
F- for "works well with others", and
D for mafia-play*

*unless it turns out that you are Mafia, then A+ for mafia-play. Brilliant deception via annoying participation! A very risky strategy, well played. Also A+ for 'works well', assuming the 'others' are your fellow maf's.

I'm no longer a live townie, so my vote has little weight, but I urge a lynch on Rhyf, and that GH duel Beskar.

[Beskar]

Yeah, have the confirmed innocent duel another one. Great logic.

[Csargo]

Ichigo's sarcastic style is a confession of him being a mafia-role.

Yeah, have the confirmed innocent duel another one. Great logic.

[Beskar]

You aren't a confirmed innocent but actually a suspected player. Thus, your point is invalid.

Since you didn't quote the whole of it anyway, even more invalid as it is a strawman.

[Caius]

Once more he has proven to be mafia or to be an epic failure as a townie.

[Yaropolk]

Current Vote Tally
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Dutch_Guy (3) Woad&Fangs, GH, ajaxfetish
Beskar (2) Ichigo, Dutch_Guy
Ichigo (1) Beskar
Yoyoma (1) Kagemusha
Kagemusha (1) Yoyoma

[Beskar]

Once more he has proven to be mafia or to be an epic failure as a townie.

Epic success as a townie.