Swords in the Moon [Concluded]

[Csargo]

Then why didn't you say that the first time?

This is not a random vote just sounds so much better then because I haven't seen him post. Plus, I didn't think someone would misunderstand my vote.

[TinCow]

Well, put it this way. If your assumption is right, you just alerted him to all the ninja and he is going to get lynched. He is naturally going to say that you are wrong.

Obviously, but in a game this large, some of the pro-town roles are bound to be doctors. If he's pro-town, he's in no immediate danger, plus a dead mafioso is more than a fair trade for a role blocker. In any case, Ichigo's role is far from determined and it's a useful method to pressure him to give more information on his intentionally mysterious vote.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I've posted a few times. I just don't RP well in mafia games. A lot of the game so far has been RP, hence I haven't posted.

[Beskar]

I think I found out why one of the victims have been killed, and a clue to who the killer is. All I will say, read a few of the comments during the night phase.

Also curse you all, I am meant to be doing other work, not thinking of why/what/when, damn distractions. :p

[Csargo]

I think I found out why one of the victims have been killed, and a clue to who the killer is. All I will say, read a few of the comments during the night phase.

Also curse you all, I am meant to be doing other work, not thinking of why/what/when, damn distractions. :p

Why are you giving vague hints? Why don't you just point them out?

Unvote:GH, Vote:Beskar

[The Spartan (Returns)]

I have small feeling that MY death wasn't random....

Well good luck to the living samurai, guess I won't be pulling anything this game

[Beskar]

Ok, I will say it.

Unvote: Abstain; Vote: Stephen Asen


Reasons?:

In the first killing, it was noticeable that some one didn't do a kill.

In the night-phase, Olavi posted:

I say it here too. This samurai will be absent for two days and then I'll have time to play.

Olavi got killed, some one must have thought him being absence from the game would be a thing, and didn't feel guilty killing him off as he won't be here, compared to some one who is playing.

Andres later says:

Orders I must get
from lazy slackers with roles
patience is virtue

Some one obviously not posted their kill in for their role. Who can it be?

I read further on, to see who posted for any clues.

Don't worry, my friend. Death is not the end, it is just another beginning.

~:Puts the pen aside listens to the grim news that has happened in his absence :~

He posted about Death (possibly that of his victim)
He hasn't been playing hence his absence, hence why he missed posting in his kill and possibly did not kill in the first night phase as well and just coming into the game on the last page and seeing Olavi's post and decided he would do for a victim as he will stop playing: "I know, I will target him, he is leaving anyway so won't be here".

I would not recommend killing all the experienced people since it won't solve the problem (not all of the assassins are experienced).

Why he might target lurkers/absent peoples opposed to those who are posting.

ALSO: Andres posted the end of turn, after his post, when it was due to finish at 30 minutes past, which must mean all the roles were accounted for.

[El Diablo]

Vote Stephen Asen

Spinder sences tingling - no other reason.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I wonder what AggonyDuck thinks of stephen asen.

[Beefy187]

I have small feeling that MY death wasn't random....

Well good luck to the living samurai, guess I won't be pulling anything this game

What a shame... I really wanted to witness the legendary "Pull the Spartan"

[Beskar]

I have small feeling that MY death wasn't random....

My guess is they targeted you as you voted for yourself.

As for this pages table -

Stephen Asen 4 Beskar, El Diablo, LittleGrizzly, Gregoshi

GeneralHankerchief 2 TinCow, Ichigo
Yaropolk 2 woad&fangs, Sasaki Kojiro

TinCow 1 YLC
Beefy187 1 Stephen Asen
TosaInu 1 Thermal Mercury
YLC 1 Glenn

Abstain 2

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Rhyfelwyr
AggonyDuck

[FactionHeir]

TC:
My view on the killings varies a bit from yours.

My categories:
N1:
Khazaar - Serial Killer
spL1tp3r50nal1ty - Ninja
Lord Winter - Traitor

N2 Deaths:
The Spartan - Ninja
Iskander III - Ninja
Shinseikhaan - Traitor
Olavi - Serial Killer

So from my thinking, the traitor is experienced, the ninjas and serial killer are new players or TWC players.

[Beefy187]

Did the Ninjas forget to put their kills in for Night 1?

If so, we should invest in voting for the lurkers

[Beskar]

btw Beskar...are you now voting yarapolk?

Sorry, just saw this statement. I am not, as I posted, I think there are enough reasons to bump off Stephen Asen legitimately. Very strong circumstance evidence is usually a give-away.

[ULC]

I believe discussing who is veteran and who is new is nonsensical. ScottishRanger was new to mafia, but as can be attested, he played wonderfully and was extremely talented. One can also point out mafia vets who lack skill or good play and may behave as if they are new.

If that works, so what if we know the relative skill level of people playing? That won't necessarily help capture the mafia faster, because they would switch how they kill.

To me it's a bunch of pointless talking, and it looks scummy to me - focusing on discussion that doesn't produce anything yet looks like it's helpful.

FoS: All those who are discussing it, from on and hence forth

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: TinCow

A placement vote for one of those doing it - I shall follow it up by voting the originator and the one who took it and began to expound upon it.

[LittleGrizzly]

Beskar has made some excellent points, whilst it could all be coincidence i really don't see a better lynch for today... because of our big numbers it will take a few night phases* before the conversation can provide more clues...

*well im assuming it will...

[LittleGrizzly]

Forgot to Vote Stephen Asen in my last post...

Stephen Asen 3 Beskar, El Diablo, LittleGrizzly
Yaropolk 2 woad&fangs, Sasaki Kojiro

TinCow 1 YLC
Beefy187 1 Stephen Asen
GeneralHankerchief 1 TinCow
Beskar 1 Ichigo
TosaInu 1 Thermal Mercury

[Csargo]

I believe discussing who is veteran and who is new is nonsensical. ScottishRanger was new to mafia, but as can be attested, he played wonderfully and was extremely talented. One can also point out mafia vets who lack skill or good play and may behave as if they are new.

If that works, so what if we know the relative skill level of people playing? That won't necessarily help capture the mafia faster, because they would switch how they kill.

To me it's a bunch of pointless talking, and it looks scummy to me - focusing on discussion that doesn't produce anything yet looks like it's helpful.

FoS: All those who are discussing it, from on and hence forth

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: TinCow

A placement vote for one of those doing it - I shall follow it up by voting the originator and the one who took it and began to expound upon it.

TC usually analyses the kills that's not really scummy behavior imo.

Unvote:Beskar, Vote:GH

The RPing was only during the first night from what I noticed the rest has been discussion, except for the haiku's but those aren't really rping.

[PershsNhpios]

(I thank all the players who are already analysing the game with depth and hindsight - this is why I enjoy the games so much, and such enjoyable writing has been missing from the Gameroom!)

I am actually sorry that my duel came out of the hat... I didn't suspect Northnovas, I just despised his reason for voting me.
Och, ah well, I enjoyed the write-up very much, Andres.

Now, of all the current suspects being bandwagoned and attacked, I am curious of none.
The players I am likely to disapprove of are those who are very swift to move in on the prospect of a bandwagon started by prominent players such as Sasaki.
This means that I would suspect Beskar, but being a new player put in the same embarrassing position that I was in Capo II, I understand his behaviour and choices.

This may be pointless discussion, YLC, but it keeps the game alive and it is what I enjoy most about it - the mystery.
Until you come up with a better reason for voting TinCow;

Vote: YLC

[Beefy187]

(I thank all the players who are already analysing the game with depth and hindsight - this is why I enjoy the games so much, and such enjoyable writing has been missing from the Gameroom!)

I am actually sorry that my duel came out of the hat... I didn't suspect Northnovas, I just despised his reason for voting me.
Och, ah well, I enjoyed the write-up very much, Andres.

Now, of all the current suspects being bandwagoned and attacked, I am curious of none.
The players I am likely to disapprove of are those who are very swift to move in on the prospect of a bandwagon started by prominent players such as Sasaki.
This means that I would suspect Beskar, but being a new player put in the same embarrassing position that I was in Capo II, I understand his behaviour and choices.

This may be pointless discussion, YLC, but it keeps the game alive and it is what I enjoy most about it - the mystery.
Until you come up with a better reason for voting TinCow;

Vote: YLC

Out of interest, whats you combat rating?

[Gregoshi]

Did the Ninjas forget to put their kills in for Night 1?

If so, we should invest in voting for the lurkers

Lord Beefy! What are you doing here?! You are supposed to be in the poetry garden where I left you. Remember? You were going to pretend to be a haiku with a limp? I already lost Atpg and the Pineapple Samurai. I can't lose you too! I'll starve! Back to the garden with you, and remember, you are lame.



Some of you speak with wisdom behind your words, at least it seems to me. I know what foolish words are and I don't recognize any of yours, so they must be wise. My Master once said, "Sadako, you are as dumb as a stick and twice as pretty. Remember these words: a hole is not empty, for an answer lies within." I saw many holes yesterday. One had ants, but that is besides the point. Those ants made that hole, because none of us is able to dig a hole that small. The first night there was a hole in the assassinations, and despite Stephen Asen's lack of mandibles and antenae...and multi-faceted eyes, four legs short and no thorax worth mentioning, I think he made that hole. And that is the hole truth as I see it. I guess the ants were not besides the point after all. Clever fellows they are.

Therefore:

Vote: Stephen Asen

If only your name had food in it you could have been spared. Spared...beefy...



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Stephen Asen 4 Beskar, El Diablo, LittleGrizzly, Gregoshi
Yaropolk 2 woad&fangs, Sasaki Kojiro

TinCow 1 YLC
Beefy187 1 Stephen Asen
GeneralHankerchief 2 TinCow, Ichigo
TosaInu 1 Thermal Mercury
YLC 1 Glenn

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Yellow bLossom
bee spears bee
blossom Cares not



Vote: GeneralHankerchief

You, my dear founder, ARE too quiet -- even though little was said on the night phases, your daywork is only a vote of "present" thus far. Thoughts?



As my haiku-ish opening suggests, YLC, I find your challenge frivolous and a pointless waste of Arach's resources. You seem very non-mafia, but all this duel will net us is one less samurai. Still, no bushi can refuse such a challenge.

How about I start with No Design No Conception and flow into the Red Leaves Cut? I will finish it cleanly from there.

[woad&fangs]

GH is currently reffereeing (sp?) a PvP battle for Last of the Romans. His lack of activity can be at least partially explained by that. Personally, I would expect GH to be more active if he had a role.

[AggonyDuck]

Vote: Abstain

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Okay, w&f, I'll give him the botd and I'll

Unvote: GeneralHankerchief

Let's hear from Stephen

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote: Abstain

What do you think of stephen asen?

[Beskar]

What do you think of stephen asen?

Out of curiosity.

1) Why are you so keen on his opinion?
2) Why did you vote for Sigurd?

[TinCow]

I am actually sorry that my duel came out of the hat... I didn't suspect Northnovas, I just despised his reason for voting me.
Och, ah well, I enjoyed the write-up very much, Andres.

Can you state whether your battle rating increased as a result of the victory? It might be good to know whether this is a standard thing or something less ordinary.

[Askthepizzaguy]

[edit]Also, ATPG is still listed as alive, which I believe is an error.

Given how atrocious I am feeling at the moment Removing me from the alive list may not be that far off the mark. When I am feeling better, can someone get me caught up.

[Beefy187]

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Lord Beefy! What are you doing here?! You are supposed to be in the poetry garden where I left you. Remember? You were going to pretend to be a haiku with a limp? I already lost Atpg and the Pineapple Samurai. I can't lose you too! I'll starve! Back to the garden with you, and remember, you are lame.



Some of you speak with wisdom behind your words, at least it seems to me. I know what foolish words are and I don't recognize any of yours, so they must be wise. My Master once said, "Sadako, you are as dumb as a stick and twice as pretty. Remember these words: a hole is not empty, for an answer lies within." I saw many holes yesterday. One had ants, but that is besides the point. Those ants made that hole, because none of us is able to dig a hole that small. The first night there was a hole in the assassinations, and despite Stephen Asen's lack of mandibles and antenae...and multi-faceted eyes, four legs short and no thorax worth mentioning, I think he made that hole. And that is the hole truth as I see it. I guess the ants were not besides the point after all. Clever fellows they are.

Therefore:

Vote: Stephen Asen

If only your name had food in it you could have been spared. Spared...beefy...



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Stephen Asen 4 Beskar, El Diablo, LittleGrizzly, Gregoshi
Yaropolk 2 woad&fangs, Sasaki Kojiro

TinCow 1 YLC
Beefy187 1 Stephen Asen
GeneralHankerchief 2 TinCow, Ichigo
TosaInu 1 Thermal Mercury
YLC 1 Glenn

Any sensible Japanese will know, not to mess with Sadako

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