Swords in the Moon [Concluded]

[Yoyoma1910]

Tell me I'm not the only one who sees the suspicion thing about this post...

Two drops of water
May fall simultaneous,
And together
Make one sound.

[Prince Cobra]

As I said earlier, if you think it's me, you are either silly or a mafia-role trying to remove blame from himself.

Besark, this was... a remarkable explanation.
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The words of TinCow worth considering, though. They can mean much, but they can also mean nothing.

[FactionHeir]

Hmmm atheothes cast the deciding vote at the last minute....me no like.

[Haudegen]

Hmmm atheothes cast the deciding vote at the last minute....me no like.

My feeling exactly. Is he a gameroom-veteran who should have known better?

[atheotes]

It' still hard to understand your vote. Repeating old mistakes (Sigurd), I think. Although there is never 100% guarantee I think we have killed the wrong person.

Well.. Tosa seemed genuinely surprised... and from what i have gathered he is new to Mafia just like me... I thought i would be surprised if i had a role and my kill was blocked (provided role-blocking/protection was unknown)...

Also, were the role assignments done by Andres or is it random too? If it was assigned by Andres i wouldnt be surprised if he gave roles to a few experienced players and one or two new players who he might know well.... i dont think i am getting anywhere with this

so lets just say i voted on a hunch

[Prince Cobra]

Well.. Tosa seemed genuinely surprised... and from what i have gathered he is new to Mafia just like me... I thought i would be surprised if i had a role and my kill was blocked (provided role-blocking/protection was unknown)...

Also, were the role assignments done by Andres or is it random too? If it was assigned by Andres i wouldnt be surprised if he gave roles to a few experienced players and one or two new players who he might know well.... i dont think i am getting anywhere with this

so lets just say i voted on a hunch

I hope you've got luck. Otherwise dark days are coming for us.

[atheotes]

Hmmm atheothes cast the deciding vote at the last minute....me no like.

i dint realize mine would be the casting vote...

My feeling exactly. Is he a gameroom-veteran who should have known better?

this is my first game....Never played Mafia before...anywhere, anyform.

[Andres]

~~~ Swords in the Moon ~~~

Day 4 - Conclusion.

Hour of the Monkey

" A freezing winter
" The sharp cold stops living things
" Branches are leafless

Saruwatari Ryou (TosaInu) looked at the freshly written poem. He sighed. It wasn’t what he wanted it to be. He hadn’t really thought about it before, since he had never expected to be ordered to commit seppuku. Who would have thought that clearing his throat after days of silence would make him a suspect of murder?

Saruwatari sighed again and he looked around him. The sound dampening snow and the silence created by the freezing cold made him feel at peace. The sky was dark blue and the first twinkling stars became visible. Stars, inviting his soul to join them.

The man in the white kimono smiled at the stars. Surely, so far away, there would only be silence and peace. Silence and peace, like on a cold winter evening.

Finally accepting his karma, he picked up the clean and sharp knife in front of him. He opened his kimono and took a final deep breath. He pierced the knife through the skin of his belly, right into his inner organs. The sudden loss of blood made him feel light in the head and for a moment, there was only peace and the beauty of the silent winter evening. Before the pain could reach him, the blade of his kaishakunin struck mercifully.

Lord Takeda nodded respectfully towards the body.


Oguri Hatsuharu (Jolt) and Saruwatari Izumi (Beaver) were watching the scene. When somebody ordered them to come forward to carry the body, a rock above them fell down, bringing with it an avalanche of snow, ice and rocks. It took several hours to dig them up and when the digging samurai finally reached the bodies of their two comrades, they were already dead.

~~~

Tally:

TosaInu : 5 (FactionHeir, Beskar, White_Eyes:D, atheotes, Sasaki Kojiro)

Rhyfelwyr: 4 (Yoyoma1910, Wishazu, Peasant Phill, TinCow)
Yoyoma1910: 2 (AggonyDuck, Chimpyang)
Beskar: 2 (Husar, Stephen Asen)
TinCow: 2 (YLC, Rhyfelwyr)
Seamus: 1 (Kagemusha)
Caius: 1 (Psychonaut)
GeneralHankerchief: 1 (Glenn)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (GeneralHankerchief)
Banquo's Ghost: 1 (Kukrikhan)

abstain: 4 (AVSM, Banquo's Ghost, Death is yonder, taka)

Not voting: 19 (Crazed Rabbit, Tristan de Castelreng, Quintus.JC, CountArach, Gobbledygook, Caius, ajaxfetish, Captain Blackadder, Ichigo, TosaInu, Seamus Fermanagh, woad&fangs, Yaropolk, Dutch_guy, Haudegen, Jolt, Beaver, Beefy187, glyphz)

~~~

Challenges:

1. Stephen Asen vs. Beskar
2. Beefy187 vs. GeneralHankerchief
3. Glenn vs. Rhyfelwyr
4. YLC vs. TinCow

Note: since TosaInu got lynched, the duels GeneralHankerchief vs. TosaInu and White_Eyes:D vs. TosaInu became null and void.

~~~

Alive (40):

TinCow
Quintus.JC
GeneralHankerchief
FactionHeir
Caius
Glenn
Beefy187
Ichigo
Wishazu
White_Eyes:D
Sasaki Kojiro
Stephen Assen
Peasant Phill
Kukrikhan
Captain Blackadder
A Very Super Market
Gobbledygook
Psychonaut
taka
YLC
Rhyfelwyr
AggonyDuck
Beskar
atheotes
Kagemusha
CountArach
Husar
Death is yonder
Tristan de Castelreng
Chimpyang
Yoyoma1910
Seamus Fermanagh
Banquo's Ghost
Crazed Rabbit
Haudegen
woad&fangs
ajaxfetish
glyphz
Dutch_guy
Yaropolk

Killed (14):
Khazaar
spL1tp3r50nal1ty
Lord Winter
The Spartan
Iskander III
Shinseikhaan
Olavi
Thermal Mercury
Chaotix27
pevergreen
Gregoshi

Reenk Roink
LittleGrizzly
Louis VI the Fat

Fallen in battle (3):
Northnovas
Ignoramus

El Diablo

Lynched (4):
Askthepizzaguy
Sigurd
shlin28

TosaInu

WoG/Suicide (3):
Xehh II

Jolt
Beaver

~~~

It's now night; PM's please. Night will end at 21.30 (GMT+1); that's within +/- 23h30m

[Yaropolk]

I say Sasaki is the Ninja master and Stephen Asen is the traitor. Gut-feelings.

Kiyonaga looked at the silent man sitting in front of him.

"Kato Danzo-san, the Uesugi clan has an important task for you. As you are well aware, the constant battles between my Lord and Lord Takeda Shingen are exhausting our resources. The Tiger of Kai has been an obstacle on my masters' path to glory for many years now and it has to be removed."

The mysterious man nodded silently.

Kiyonaga continued: "Allthough an excellent general on the field of honor, the Tiger is pretty predictable when it comes to his habits during the Winter season. He will probably spend his time in his yashiki (mansion) in Kofu, only surrounded by his best men. Bring me his head and you will be rewarded generously."

Kato Danzo bowed. "So it will be, Kiyonaga-sama."

The ninja master left the tent without making a sound.

Sasaki - what was the point of this post?

[Beskar]

Sasaki - what was the point of this post?

His character name isn't that of the Ninja master, therefore, it isn't him.

I do want to know who saved him though.. as in, was it a pro-town or an anti-town role.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Fine this is my role PM:

Rhyfelwhyr

Date Bontenmaru – veteran samurai

Konichi wa, Date-san

You are one of the chosen samurai to join your master to his yashiki. This is a great honor and you are very grateful to your master.

You have been in many battles for him and you have the scars to prove it.

As a samurai, you live to serve and there is no greater honor then to die in the service of your master.

You will protect Takeda Shingen-sama with your life.

Battle rating: ???

Abilities:
- During the day, you can vote for the players that you consider to be suspicous, as explained in the rules in the first post of the game thread.
- You can also challenge one other player to a duel during the day. If the kami of the mountain decide that you have to duel, then that duel will be fought at sunrise, right before the start of the next day.
- During the night, you sleep.

Gokouun o inorimasu (good luck)!

I scored out the battle rating since I'm not supposed to post that, right?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

My name was revealed in the writeup--and it wasn't kato danzo.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You shouldn't have posted it at ALL.

TinCow seriously has to die next round.

[atheotes]

Looks like I made a mistake... if i had abstained from voting it could have been a tie...
Apologies to TosaInu

[FactionHeir]

An h too much in your role name and a missing part at the end?

[TinCow]

You shouldn't have posted it at ALL.

TinCow seriously has to die next round.

Your argument is overwhelming.

[Quintus.JC]

Anyway, it is a known fact I am an innocent townie. Trying to pin things on me either means you are rather silly or a mafia-role.

Known fact – somehow I cannot see it.

Never played with Beskar before, but you’re either a hyperactive town, or an incrediblely daring and audacious Mafioso.


Sasaki’s protection looks mostly likely to be contributed by the doctor/protector. The write-up was too ambiguous to tell which party attacked Sasaki, the only certain murder committed by the ninjas was Reenk’s kill, the rest could had either been done by the traitor or the Ninjas, while Louis appeared to have been killed by the deranged, gory SK.

[LittleGrizzly]

Yeah it would be alot better to keep some back.... im sure TinCow would know its better to have a little by little rather than clear one suspect completely..

FoS TinCow

Edit: I would have guessed mine and reenks kills would be linked...

[Yaropolk]

I think both LG and Reenk Roink were killed by Ninjas, if one was under suspicion then both were.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

Wow! Still not over? Still so many villagers left!

[KukriKhan]

Your argument is overwhelming.

Great. Now, assuming mafia didn't already have fake role PMs, they do now. And what good are any future townie reveals? Zero. Goading a newbie player to publish his townie PM = highly suspicious, if not downright scummy.

Unlike Sasaki I don't call for your lynching next round - yet. But you, a vet player who knows the ins and outs of role reveals and their timing, have some explaining to do. In my humble opinion.

Re: Sasaki's save, if you his protector read this, please contact CountArach and reveal your good intentions immediately. Failure to do so will bring maximum suspicion upon him, and likely get him lynched soon, presuming by your silence that he is mafia.

[FactionHeir]

Wow! Still not over? Still so many villagers left!

You aren't killing us fast enough it seems

[TinCow]

Great. Now, assuming mafia didn't already have fake role PMs, they do now. And what good are any future townie reveals? Zero. Goading a newbie player to publish his townie PM = highly suspicious, if not downright scummy.

Unlike Sasaki I don't call for your lynching next round - yet. But you, a vet player who knows the ins and outs of role reveals and their timing, have some explaining to do. In my humble opinion.

Sasaki is being reactionary. In a game this large, it has to be assumed that the mafia have had access to townie role PMs for a long time now. Before I requested that he post his role PM, there were already statements that revealing that would prove nothing for this very reason. Under these circumstances, complaints about a townie role PM being posted is little more than crying wolf. Sasaki has been convinced that I'm scum for days now. His opinion is clouded and he's seeing mafioso in everything I do.

I saw Rhy as a very decent suspect. I pressured him to get information that I thought we be useful in weighing his guilt. I apologize if some people think my methods were faulty, but I regret nothing and I'll do it again if I think it's the right move.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki is being reactionary. In a game this large, it has to be assumed that the mafia have had access to townie role PMs for a long time now. Before I requested that he post his role PM, there were already statements that revealing that would prove nothing for this very reason. Under these circumstances, complaints about a townie role PM being posted is little more than crying wolf. Sasaki has been convinced that I'm scum for days now. His opinion is clouded and he's seeing mafioso in everything I do.

If you're just an innocent townie, there's no harm in revealing. The only thing of any significance in a townie role PM is the battle rating, which you could edit out, as long as CountArach has a copy. So, go ahead post your role PM if you'd like to prove your innocence,

Forged role PMs can often be spotted, it's worth fishing for them. AFAIK, Andres has never supplied mafioso with cover role PMs in his games, and I see nothing to indicate they would have them in this one. Therefore any fake covers would have to be forged. And despite all of the above, it's still of no harm for a potential lynchee to post a role PM if he's just a townie.

Nice...nice.

And TinCow--you did two other things in this post. You associate the criticism made against you with me, and then claim that my opinion is clouded. This ignore that several other people find you suspicious and accused you of the same thing, and that I completely ignored you today and went after tosa. I haven't even challenged you. So no, revisionist history is not a defense.

[Reenk Roink]

It just sucks when Sasaki starts with this on you. Good luck TinCow, you will need it.

Also, now that Master is suspicious of you, so I too am suspicious of you.

[Beskar]

I wonder if the Mafia try to kill Sasaki again.

[Prince Cobra]

I think Beskar is far more suspicious than TinCow-Sasaki. Once we finish off this snake, we can resolve the debate over TinCow-Sasaki.

Quintius... hyperactive member whose purpose is not to find out the truth but to destroy his victim. Look at his record, his bandwagoning, his arrogance, his twisting of words. Why did he vote for Tosa? No comment...

I wonder if the Mafia try to kill Sasaki again.

It depends on you, I think.

[Beskar]

I think Beskar is far more suspicious than TinCow-Sasaki. Once we finish off this snake, we can resolve the debate over TinCow-Sasaki.

You are just upset with me, I am not suspicious at all. TinCow will be next rounds bandwagon anyway.

[Prince Cobra]

You are just upset with me, I am not suspicious at all. TinCow will be next rounds bandwagon anyway.

Upset? Of course I am. Unfortunately, I am the only one who survived your bandwagoning. Why did you kill Tosa, ATPG, shlin (the latter is undertsandable although I am still sceptic)?

Until Sasaki is confirmed non-guilty by Takeda Shingen, I am against the nomination of either Sasaki or TinCow for the next day.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Killing Askthepizzaguy is what all good honorable warriors do.