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    Default Re: Red Cross Torture Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    Government will ALWAYS have to do nasty things, and given the nature of Gov't they will do nasty things to the general populace unless the general populace consistently reacts with horror and revulsion when such activity occurs.

    Therefore:
    I agree with the UK's interventionist foreign policy and therefore recognise that the UK will accumulate many state & non-state enemies.
    I support the secret use of effective interrogation techniques against enemies of the state, even if they are distasteful to me.
    I recognise that many of the brutal torture techniques provide zero certainty for interrogation purposes, and are thus ineffective.
    I realise that the general public will find it very difficult to distinguish between effective/distasteful & ineffective/brutal interrogation methods.
    I accept that the general public do not always make rational choices about the public good which is why we elect governments to make those tough choices.
    I encourage public uproar about distasteful & brutal interrogation techniques as the most effective ward against the incipient totalitarian state.

    Is that clearer?
    No, we do not elect government in order that they may evict fellow subjects from their homelands, we do not elect governments to declare war without concensus, we do not elect governments to abuse the use of Royal perogative to stifle High Court rulings. We do not believe in the government taking blatant liberties with its powers under the pretext of "we know better". You're not a commie are you?

    "interventionist policy"...
    Oh you mean that stuff about invading countries for the sake of securing oil pipelines which our current group of Chums, the Taliban, can no longer do? Right.
    Because our current adventure in the desert has gone sooo well!

    The money that has been spent on Iraq could have been spent on the people who actually pay taxes, you know, some of those poor people who don't have much, who live off the crap which is frozen food and multiple jobs.
    The only people who support the war in Asia are those whom don't struggle with the black holes which are Public schools and council estates.
    Last edited by Incongruous; 04-27-2009 at 06:49.

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