"Millions of Texans are tired of Washington, DC trying to come down here to tell us h

And Governor good hair fires one across the bow

Who's the Crazy secessionist now? All 24 million of us!!!! I'm very excited. Secession is better than sex.

Dear God this is awesome. "Texans know best" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YES YES YES YES YES

Yall need to watch the video!

OH DEAR GOD MY THEARD TITLE
"Millions of Texans are tired of Washington, DC trying to come down here to tell us how to run Texas."

Who's the Crazy secessionist now? All 24 million of us!!!! I'm very excited. Secession is better than sex.

So tempted to sig.

'at's it. I'm moving to San Antonio in 4 years. Enough of this California teabagging. At last... a State that knows how to be a Republic.

Seconded, Kurki.

I do have to say, though, that the 10th says nothing about secession.

http://www.collegenews.com/index.php...n_2010_023486/

Meh... read it a while ago, sounds like BS. Texas isn't actually going to secede.

Texas isn't actually going to secede.

Translate that to Spanish and go tell it to Mexico.

Originally Posted by Marshal Murat

Translate that to Spanish and go tell it to Mexico.

Meh.

Originally Posted by Fragony

http://www.collegenews.com/index.php...n_2010_023486/

Wait... whothehell let Arkansas in? 'Em guys are gonna need some learnin'.

Professor Panarin, IMO is watching too much american TV; but I won't be surprised much if a split occurs, at least electorally, along the lines he guesses - I'll give him that.

Meh

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The US is not going to split apart over this, many more political crisis's were postponed or ended with peaceful agreements then with violence in the US.

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

The US is not going to split apart over this, many more political crisis's were postponed or ended with peaceful agreements then with violence in the US.

Who suggests violence? We're civilized nowadays. Courts rule.

States assert. The Union replies. Last time it took a call to arms. But this is 2009. All we gotta do is follow the the 1787 document. Or decide it no longer applies.

Originally Posted by KukriKhan

Who suggests violence? We're civilized nowadays. Courts rule.

States assert. The Union replies. Last time it took a call to arms. But this is 2009. All we gotta do is follow the the 1787 document. Or decide it no longer applies.

The link Fragony posted, suggested the US was going to break apart. I don't think the Fed gov would let the country split apart without a fight. The only reason the Soviet Union dismantled peacefully was because the change was coming from within the gov itself. If instead of Gorbachev there was a Stalin like figure, I think the Soviet Union would have stuck around further.

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

The link Fragony posted, suggested the US was going to break apart. I don't think the Fed gov would let the country split apart without a fight. The only reason the Soviet Union dismantled peacefully was because the change was coming from within the gov itself. If instead of Gorbachev there was a Stalin like figure, I think the Soviet Union would have stuck around further.

I take that (excellent) point.

And only (weakly) counter: some americans have not forgotten how they got to where they are. (Man, was that not some mangled grammar?)

That a very large 'many' of them reside in Texas might be material, I counter. I suggest that peaceful protest, sanctioned by courts, eventually, backed up by an armed population with determination to self-govern, and a list of grieveances going back 4 generations or so...

might be more successful at divorcing itself from a Union if thought counter-productive to the aims of its own people - from which it draws its power.

Originally Posted by KukriKhan

I take that (excellent) point.

And only (weakly) counter: some americans have not forgotten how they got to where they are. (Man, was that not some mangled grammar?)

That a very large 'many' of them reside in Texas might be material, I counter. I suggest that peaceful protest, sanctioned by courts, eventually, backed up by an armed population with determination to self-govern, and a list of grieveances going back 4 generations or so...

might be more successful at divorcing itself from a Union if thought counter-productive to the aims of its own people - from which it draws its power.

I'm sorry but for some reason I am very tired right now, could you clear up that grammar a bit or rephrase your statement, because I don't think I am getting the point you are trying to convey.

EDIT: Are you saying that peaceful protests, use of courts and a list of motives to secede would work better instead of violence for...(here is where I get confused at your statement, sorry.)

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Who's the Crazy secessionist now? All 24 million of us!!!! I'm very excited. Secession is better than sex.

Dear God this is awesome. "Texans know best" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YES YES YES YES YES

Worked real well last time.

Before the Civil War (which is what we call it in England) people were much more likely to say "The United States are .....": afterwards they tended to say "The United States is .....". You have had 140 years of thinking of yourselves as a single country. True, people in the US remember (some of) how the country started, but there is all the history in between too including at least four wars since 1865 fought as a unified country, a county that has become the world's only superpower. It is a lot to give up. In addition the Civil War casts a shadow still, doesn't it? Isn't some of this talk of secession a vestigal wish to re-fight the battles of the 1860's? And with this in mind, black Texans might be ambivalent about the notion of states rights given what that represented in the past. Finally, as I said, it did not work out well for Texas last time.

I know that Texans are like Yorkshiremen - their part of the country is distinct from the rest and much better but not many of either would want to declare independence and even fewer would take up arms to back up this independence.

If this is like a distant relative dragging up intimate family quarels then apologies.

A Texan is a Texan, black, white, or brown. Besides I'm just happy were rumbling about states rights. I know in my heart of hearts were not going to secede but I love the loaded language.

Vive le Texas! Vive la République du Texas!

Behold the Place Vendôme, Paris:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

It was commissioned by the Sun King, Louis XIV. Build by Mansart, the same architect who designed Versailles. For centuries, it has been one the most prestigious squares in Europe. The very centre of Parisian style and luxury.

Napoleon chose this square as the site for his monument. The colonne in the centre was constructed of the molten copper of the Austrian cannons after the stunning victory at Austerlitz, its bas-reliefs relate the story of Napoleon's Austrian conquests. Napoleon himself stands on top.

Chopin enchanted Europe's elite in his house on this square. Napoleon III, when he revived the Empire, chose this square as his living quarters. Chanel has it's headquarters here. The iconic style of the new 20th century female was designed here. The world's most famous perfume, Chanel no.5 - still the only perfume for a lady - was designed after the square, following exactly its elegant octagonal dimensions:

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Louis XIV, Napoleon, Chopin, Napoleon III, Chanel. They constitute the grandeur of a civilization. But in this world, nothing is greater than Texas. And Grandeur recognises Greatness when it sees it. That is why, while the rest of the world did not even recognise Texas as an independent republic, France considered it her duty to offer her former colony Texas his rightful place under the sun. Right on the Place Vendôme, as a gift to the new republic, Texas was granted an embassy. Its first. Paris knows that Greatness deserves only the best, so Texas was gifted the most prestigious adress of all too: Place Vendôme 1.

Embassy of Texas
In 1842 this building
was the seat of the embassy
of the republic of Texas

By the treaty Franco-Texan
of 29 September 1839
France became the first nation
to recognize the republic of Texas
as an indpendent state between 1836 and 1846

Paris is the judge of who is deserving of a nation. If you have a prestigious embassy on the Place Vendôme, in the centre of world diplomacy, then who are Uruguay or Siam to say you are not a proud independent republic?

Today, the former embassy is a prestigious hotel. One can sleep in the offices of the Texas ambassador. The very room where I and Strike's sister will spend our honeymoon, forging a renewed Franco-Texan alliance, after I have forged a sixth République, and Strike has made himself president of a new independent republic of Texas.

Vive le Texas! Vive la République du Texas!

Gov. Rick Perry today joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Governor Perry? The Texas governor is called Perry?

Please tell me he is homosexual. Then I'm going to invite him over to declare Texas independent in Paris. You know, just for the headlines: 'Texas independence declared by gay Perry in gay Paris'

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

A Texan is a Texan, black, white, or brown.

Are you sure? I don't think this is true of Yorkshiremen.

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Governor Perry? The Texas governor is called Perry?

Please tell me he is homosexual. Then I'm going to invite him over to declare Texas independent in Paris. You know, just for the headlines: 'Texas independence declared by gay Perry in gay Paris'

He has the best hair in the state but then again you can shine a turd but at the end of the day it's still gonna be a turd.

Perry is a tyrant. I can't wait till we elect the Jewish Cowboy.

Originally Posted by Duke of Gloucester

Are you sure? I don't think this is true of Yorkshiremen.

Tejanos and Anglo-Texians fought and bled together during the revolution. I am confident in us.

Remember Goliad!

Yeah, I know they won't secede -- but if we can get a bit more of the attitude that "these United States are" and a good bit less of "the United States is" back into our government we WILL be better off.

Louis:

Cool beans about the embassy! That I didn't know -- but I like.

I predict texas will go democrat in the near future.

Texas is the GOP's answer to California's auto-Dem electoral votes. Without that check, we may as well paint the White House blue.

Hopefully Texas will still respect my citizenship.

I love the idea, of course.

kind of off topic, I find it hilarious that the DHS report says that single issue voters, particularly those that are opposed to unchecked immigration and abortion, are at risk for radicalization and that they should be watched closely. Absurd.

The Republicans created the patriot act that eroded the percieved rights of non-americans. The Democrats will ridicule the act in public but use it to erode the real rights of American citizens in private. One hand the other

Oh, there's plenty in the Patriot Act that affects U.S. citizens.

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

I predict texas will go democrat in the near future.

5 years and 1 day after the effective date of the new immigration policy that Obama and the Dems are seeking to have made the new law of the land on this issue.

Wonderful gesture by the governor of Texas and like minded states issuing similar measures & proclamations.

Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff

I love the idea, of course.

kind of off topic, I find it hilarious that the DHS report says that single issue voters, particularly those that are opposed to unchecked immigration and abortion, are at risk for radicalization and that they should be watched closely. Absurd.

The Republicans created the patriot act that eroded the percieved rights of non-americans. The Democrats will ridicule the act in public but use it to erode the real rights of American citizens in private. One hand the other

Yes, they were so adamantly opposed to the Patriot Act and Dept. of Homeland Security yet the Democrats have made zero efforts to repeal the former and dismantle the latter.

Barely three months in office and the current administration is already using the Dept. of Homeland Security to further its own ends...

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...rpc=22&sp=true

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cals-on-right/

Here's an update...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ing-extremism/

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Clearly their definition of 'the radical right' leaves a great deal to be desired. Embittered veterans? Disgruntled old people? Angry kids who wear controversial t-shirts? Looks like the stupidity and alarming short sightedness of Bush and the NeoCons is paying dividends for the Obama administration.

Things are getting uglier by the week...

Never liked the patriot act... I propose we rename it the 'I hate America act' and then see how much support it gets...

With regard to the Patriot Act et al, that's precisely why you should never allow governments more powers over anyone's rights, most especially if you happen to agree with the government (ie, they're your party).

The lot you don't agree with will one day come to power, and there's precious few examples of governments giving back powers, whatever they said previously.