Tips for AS?

[Belisarius II]

I was thinking of starting a campaign as the Arche Seleukid. I've never been them before and I really like their unit list. It's just that the size of their empire is intimidating.

I want to ask you AS veterans what my first turns should be focused on, what faction should I attack first, and who not to attack, and etc.

[Maion Maroneios]

A simple forum search should give you more than enough guides for the allmighty Arche Seleukeia.

Maion

[satalexton]

Indeed, a little less mighty than Makedonia, and certainly a notch better than the incestous Ptolemaoi...

ALL HAIL MAKEDONIA!!!

[Maion Maroneios]

Indeed, a little less mighty than Makedonia, and certainly a notch better than the incestous Ptolemaoi...

ALL HAIL MAKEDONIA!!!

Certainly less mighty than Makedonia. I just thought adding a given fact to be unnecessary.

Maion

[Megalos Danielos Psychopatos]

No one has told both of U to take tablets regularly?

[vartan]

No one has told both of U to take tablets regularly?

Ahahaha, made me laugh!

And I also have never played AS, maybe one day. But I like the idea of starting out simple and small, building your way up.

[Maion Maroneios]

No one has told both of U to take tablets regularly?

Don't tell me you're one of those crazy people as well!

Maion

[Elcmar]

Ahahaha, made me laugh!

And I also have never played AS, maybe one day. But I like the idea of starting out simple and small, building your way up.

Entirely possible with AS, as long as you don't mind cheating a tiny bit. I'm currently playing an AS campaign where i've let everything except Antiocheia and Damaskos revolt, and killed off everyone except the FL and his two sons - currently slowly rebuilding the Arche, bit by bit. The cheating bit comes in because it is great fun to do something like this - its also very expensive, hence needing to supply yourself with a bit of debt-clearing money now and again. However i'm playing this campaign purely for the fun of (re)building an Empire with one of my fav factions and unit rosters - never really like starting off with a mammoth empire

[legatus]

Hi

I played a successful AS campaign, and i began by withdrawing and destroying everything from my farthest eastern provinces and then fortified and held the line Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai and Karmana. Supporting these towns were troops from Persepolis, Susa and Ekbatana to repel seiges.

Whilst in the west, the great enemy is the Ptolemaioi, so i went on the offensive and attacked them before they could grow and develop, and kept up the pressure until they were not a threat, i found that by leaving the Ptolemaioi in control in western Egypt, i did not disturb Carthage before i was ready.

I made no threatening moves on my northern borders, but slowly strengthening my towns and using diplomacy to keep things quiet.

After Ptolemaioi i then went about subduing Parthia, then after Parthia was weakened i turned west to complete a successful campaign.

Hope this helps you have an enjoyable campaign GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tyrfingr]

Certainly less mighty than Makedonia. I just thought adding a given fact to be unnecessary.

How to properly troll a greek - refer to the Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia simply as Macedonia.

[JRG]

I immediately let the two northeastern cities go rebel, because they don't add anything and provide an unnecessary extra border with Baktria and Saka.
The two cities directly south of the Palahva starting position (Asaak and Hekatompylos i think?) were lost pretty early on. However, all of my other border towns in the east were given stone walls as soon as possible, because the cavalry heavy eastern factions have difficulty assaulting walls. All you really need as garrison is 1-2 units of arches and 1-2 units on pantodopoi to hold off all but the most powerful assaults.'
I immediately focused on grabbing the two Ptolemaic towns in Asia Minor, and after taking that, I also took Sidon to remove the immediate threat in the west. Then I went back to the east and retook Asaak and Hekatompylos, and even Nisa.
I have mostly stayed on the defensive in the East, though eventually I would like to capture Baktria and India.
The start is difficult, but I was surprised to find that I didn't ever go into debt, though money was tight in the beginning.
Now, around 230ish, I have all of Asia Minor and the Levant, and am preparing for a massive invasion of Egypt.

[Maion Maroneios]

How to properly troll a greek - refer to the Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia simply as Macedonia.

*An explosion is heard in the background just as Jaertecken finishes his sentense, indicating Maion bursted from fury*

OK, I'll stop spamming now.

Maion

[Vasiliyi]

Well, AS is an awesome faction and i love it, but it can be quite intimidating at first. your first turn is all about finances and taxes.

First set your capital to Susa. (this decreases unrest due to distance from capital.
Scroll through every single town and set your taxes as hugh as they can go wothout rebeling.
Also disband any cavalry.
Your two northeastern cities should be razed completly and taxes set to highest. Disband those Garrisons.
Next move your FH (theodotus) to Antiochea (it will take a few turns)
Move your entire garrison from asaak to Hekatompylos as it will get seiged and those men will die pointlessly.
I personally done recomend building stone walls anywhere as you can just use 1 or 2 phalanxes to hold them off.
ANY extra Garrisons frome sardis, ipsos, mazaka, damaskos, and edessa should be moved to antechea where they will form your first army (half stack) to blitz the levant. When theodotus gets there blitz tarsos and then sidon and heirosolyma. then, disband that armie and creatte a decent army from anteochea.... control asia minor frist and then secure your east. hope this helps.

[Aemilius Paulus]

OK, I'll stop spamming now.

Maion

Yeah, or else we will deport you to Macedonia. And not the the region of Macedonia either. No less than the country

They will tear up a nationalist like you there


So no more of that "I hate the Romans more than Hitler" crap anymore. Got it!

[Maion Maroneios]

"I hate the Romans more than Hitler" crap anymore. Got it!

Well, excuse me dude, but the Barbaroi did kill more people than Hitler ever did. On a longer time period, of course, but more nevertheless.

Maion

[Dutchhoplite]

[Aurgelmir]

Well, excuse me dude, but the Barbaroi did kill more people than Hitler ever did. On a longer time period, of course, but more nevertheless.

Maion

First of all hitler only killed 6 or 7 men when he was in the 1 world war ...lol

And i doubt that the romans killed more then 30 million people(sarcastic...this isn't funny)
In total 50 till 70 million people lost lost there lives in the 2 war

And people who compare things like that,because of a game,are just retarded and must be shot on sight(no joke)

So little child pls dont do that,compare serious things like that,because you love your stupid macamorons

That shit gets me angry

(sorry for posting coud not restain myself)

[Maion Maroneios]

First of all hitler only killed 6 or 7 men when he was in the 1 world war ...lol

And i doubt that the romans killed more then 30 million people(sarcastic...this isn't funny)
In total 50 till 70 million people lost lost there lives in the 2 war

And people who compare things like that,because of a game,are just retarded and must be shot on sight(no joke)

So little child pls dont do that,compare serious things like that,because you love your stupid macamorons

That shit gets me angry

(sorry for posting coud not restain myself)

The Romans have existed as an empire for over 1,000 damn years dude. Even if they killed 10,000 per year (which they didn't, the number was way higher), the sum is 10,000,000 people. And note what I said, they certainly killed much more than 10,000 per year as an average. This includes their own dead soldiers, assassinations, deaths due to diseases spread by sieges, contamination of water etc. It's just that they killed more in a longer time period, while the technological advancement during WWII was so big in weaponry, that so many people died in just a few years.

It's simple math dude, and it's you that should be shot on sight I believe for taking things way too serious. I know a lot of people died during WWII and I don't take such matters as jokes, but I simply wanted to make an analogy. Think before you type away. And THINK, for God's sake, before you type something that is undoubtly going to piss someone off. Especially someone you have already pissed off in the past.

As for this funny statement of you calling me a child... Dude have you ever wondered how old your brain is with those statements that you make? For certainly, my little brother has much more brains that you do, at least from what you show me on the Internet. My spam about Makedonia is purely for fun, but that I have stated before. If you're too damn stupid to understand, then that's not my fault.

Good thing is though, you were smart enough not to try and call me names in Dutch.

Maion

[Atraphoenix]

if you click here you can see the units of AS but I do not know they are still same same with the last version 1.2 :

https://www.europabarbarorum.com/fac...eia_units.html

AS is one of my favourite factions but it is a torture to get hellenic katas!


this guys are awesome but no match for grivpandar.

so I am just stick to Pahlava overrunners of AS

P.S. build your phalanxes immediately for pahlava medium phalanxes and pezetairoi are invincable from front against arrows but not from back that is how I annihilate them

[satalexton]

Once u have catanks, pointy things seem more like toothpicks =D

[Mulceber]

The Romans have existed as an empire for over 1,000 damn years dude. Even if they killed 10,000 per year (which they didn't, the number was way higher), the sum is 10,000,000 people. And note what I said, they certainly killed much more than 10,000 per year as an average. This includes their own dead soldiers, assassinations, deaths due to diseases spread by sieges, contamination of water etc. It's just that they killed more in a longer time period, while the technological advancement during WWII was so big in weaponry, that so many people died in just a few years.

It's simple math dude, and it's you that should be shot on sight I believe for taking things way too serious. I know a lot of people died during WWII and I don't take such matters as jokes, but I simply wanted to make an analogy. Think before you type away. And THINK, for God's sake, before you type something that is undoubtly going to piss someone off. Especially someone you have already pissed off in the past.

As for this funny statement of you calling me a child... Dude have you ever wondered how old your brain is with those statements that you make? For certainly, my little brother has much more brains that you do, at least from what you show me on the Internet. My spam about Makedonia is purely for fun, but that I have stated before. If you're too damn stupid to understand, then that's not my fault.

Good thing is though, you were smart enough not to try and call me names in Dutch.

Maion

I think your numbers are screwy. First of all, Rome existed for 1200 years, but that's only if you take it from the very founding of the city - bad idea. They didn't have much influence at that time and thus the number of deaths that resulted from their rule would be MUCH lower - maybe 10,000 when they were at war. Otherwise, it would be virtually no-one. Maybe, MAYBE 100 people per year. If you want to measure Roman influence, we should probably start around 300 BC and, going up until the rise of Augustus it steadily increases from there until they're killing maybe 20,000 per year (always accounting for spikes like when Hannibal was fighting them). During the reign of Augustus however, I'd say the the numbers drop a bit, since they were largely at peace and were only killing condemned criminals and barbarians in border wars. Then it remains relatively constant until their Empire starts going downhill, at which point more people start to die due to barbarian raids and the Romans' struggle to maintain power.

I honestly couldn't say how many they killed, but I think it's foolish to just make a blanket number of 10,000 per year and come to a grand total of 10,000,000. -M

[Rilder]

Not to mention how many deaths they may of PREVENTED by uniting Most of europe under one solid power.

[Mulceber]

Also a good point. -M

[Aurgelmir]

The Romans have existed as an empire for over 1,000 damn years dude. Even if they killed 10,000 per year (which they didn't, the number was way higher), the sum is 10,000,000 people. And note what I said, they certainly killed much more than 10,000 per year as an average. This includes their own dead soldiers, assassinations, deaths due to diseases spread by sieges, contamination of water etc. It's just that they killed more in a longer time period, while the technological advancement during WWII was so big in weaponry, that so many people died in just a few years.

It's simple math dude, and it's you that should be shot on sight I believe for taking things way too serious. I know a lot of people died during WWII and I don't take such matters as jokes, but I simply wanted to make an analogy. Think before you type away. And THINK, for God's sake, before you type something that is undoubtly going to piss someone off. Especially someone you have already pissed off in the past.

As for this funny statement of you calling me a child... Dude have you ever wondered how old your brain is with those statements that you make? For certainly, my little brother has much more brains that you do, at least from what you show me on the Internet. My spam about Makedonia is purely for fun, but that I have stated before. If you're too damn stupid to understand, then that's not my fault.

Good thing is though, you were smart enough not to try and call me names in Dutch.

Maion

Then dont post things what include hitler DUDE....that way YOU dont piss any body off ..a thumb up for you m8

And my statments look like that,because my english sucks...Take me on in a conversation about politics or theology in dutch or german(that's no sarcasm).I'm sure you would change your mind(or we could do a chess match online hehe)

And by the way if you gonna count casulty's on both side's,then in WW2 died 70.000.000(maybe more) people
I think that back there 70.000(only roman wars) people every year a little to much lol

[satalexton]

I think there's a little overhype at this guys, I have a good section of my family tree wiped out by the Japs, but I don't flip over on anybody that mentioned the name Tojo. Let's just let this rest and lets go back on topic about The GREATNESS OF THE MAKEDONIAN ARCHE!!!

ALL HAIL MAKEDONIA

[Maion Maroneios]

Dudes, you are all horrible at maths it seems. Have you no idea how things worked at that time? Even of we start counting at 300BC, the Byzantines have persisted as a Roman influence much later, even during the Middle Ages. Like the Holy Roman Empire. And people killed for fun back then. OK, a little exaggerated, but they weren't as soft as we are nowdays. I mean, Americans fear death for example. A lot more than 10,000 people died per year due to the Romans, be that for war or something else.

As for you, "Dutch chess and theology-politics expert", I believe this doesn't have to continue. If you're that bad at English, don't bother to type anything. And even if you were as good in those subjects as you brag that you are, it would be reflected at least a bit in your posts. Oh, and being good at chess doesn't make you a genius, you know. I happen not to be a great fan of chess, though I doubt I'm an idiot. Though I must say that there are enough of them, even in the EB fora.

Maion

[Vasiliyi]

Wishing to anger no one, I think this thread needs to be locked.

[Maion Maroneios]

Agreed, we went too far.

Maion

[Aurgelmir]

Dudes, you are all horrible at maths it seems. Have you no idea how things worked at that time? Even of we start counting at 300BC, the Byzantines have persisted as a Roman influence much later, even during the Middle Ages. Like the Holy Roman Empire. And people killed for fun back then. OK, a little exaggerated, but they weren't as soft as we are nowdays. I mean, Americans fear death for example. A lot more than 10,000 people died per year due to the Romans, be that for war or something else.

As for you, "Dutch chess and theology-philosophy expert", I believe this doesn't have to continue. If you're that bad at English, don't bother to type anything. And even if you were as good in philosophy as you brag that you are, it would be reflected at least a bit in your posts. Oh, and being good at chess doesn't make you a genius, you know. I happen not to be a great fan of chess, though I doubt I'm an idiot. Though I must say that there are enough of them, even in the EB fora.

Maion

First off all...learn to read...I said politics not philosophy..lol again and another thumb up for Maion

[Maion Maroneios]

Mistakes are human, you know. Thanks for pointing out, though.

Maion