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    All European line infantry have now +3 extra defense.
    They already had much too high a defence value as it was.

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    Be aware with melee defense shield and armour values are now also counted in the value shown on the unit card. The actual melee defense stat itself has not really changed for most units with this patch, though the values are being looked at for future balance patches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lusted View Post
    Be aware with melee defense shield and armour values are now also counted in the value shown on the unit card. The actual melee defense stat itself has not really changed for most units with this patch, though the values are being looked at for future balance patches.
    hey, Jack, just wondering if inter-AI diplomacy will be looked at at some point? i did not see anything about it in the patch list. currently, the AI does not seem to be able to make peace with other AI factions. once two factions are at war, they're at war still 50 years later despite both factions not doing anything to each other.

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    There are going to be constant AI improvements and updates with every patch. We're well aware of the issues relating to the campaign AI and making peace and its being worked on.
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    Something not mentioned in the patch notes among other things are naval click crash and defeat an army that was targeted by another army crash. Also things like grenadiers forced to reload after using grenades, light infantry needing to reload before planting stakes or AI actually going to make peace with each other.

    Its slowly getting there though, which is good.

    Btw, my own personal bug list:
    http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic/52462 (beware, its huge )
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    If the AI naval invasions are now working and are relatively OK, I will start playing the game again, haven't touched it for 3 weeks due to this. Been waiting for this patch, nice one.
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    hmm. people who have the patch already are reporting 0% tax (regardless what rate they set the tax at). how could something like this have slipped by beta and in-house testers??

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    it seems, more and more people are reporting the same thing. darned... i forgot to put steam in offline mode this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaists View Post
    hmm. people who have the patch already are reporting 0% tax (regardless at what rate they set the tax). how could something like this have slipped by beta and in-house testers??
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    it seems, more and more people are reporting the same thing. darned... i forgot to put steam in offline mode this morning.

    Yes, I got that bug, I was about to report it now. I thought "I know, I will start a new game! I will play as Russia, so I can observe the Naval units in action".

    So I put it as VH/VH like I do, then I noticed that I was basically bankrupt, so I thought "oh, must be more expensive, I will go Easy/Easy to cancel out the costs" and still no money.
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    Way to go, my game is actually now broken when it worked reasonably well before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Yes, I got that bug, I was about to report it now. I thought "I know, I will start a new game! I will play as Russia, so I can observe the Naval units in action".

    So I put it as VH/VH like I do, then I noticed that I was basically bankrupt, so I thought "oh, must be more expensive, I will go Easy/Easy to cancel out the costs" and still no money.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Way to go, my game is actually now broken when it worked reasonably well before.
    hey, since you have the patch already, would you mind starting up a small faction (prussia) game? lusted mentioned in another thread that owning many provinces in a single theater would set the tax income very low... going by that logic, prussia should be alright at the start.

    anyway, having zero income just because a faction has many starting provinces (like russia) is plain stupid imho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Yes, I got that bug, I was about to report it now. I thought "I know, I will start a new game! I will play as Russia, so I can observe the Naval units in action".

    So I put it as VH/VH like I do, then I noticed that I was basically bankrupt, so I thought "oh, must be more expensive, I will go Easy/Easy to cancel out the costs" and still no money.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Way to go, my game is actually now broken when it worked reasonably well before.
    Quick question, have you modded your startpost.esf at all or installed any mods that might change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Yes, I got that bug, I was about to report it now. I thought "I know, I will start a new game! I will play as Russia, so I can observe the Naval units in action".

    So I put it as VH/VH like I do, then I noticed that I was basically bankrupt, so I thought "oh, must be more expensive, I will go Easy/Easy to cancel out the costs" and still no money.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Way to go, my game is actually now broken when it worked reasonably well before.
    Dude. That is nothing to complain about. I on the other hand have something valid. I downloaded the patch, continued my swedish campaign (1781) and realised the economic system had changed so drastically due to the patch that I lost 35 000 per turn. I actually had + 25 000 per turn before the patch, and now I have - 10 000. My entire empire fell because of that. I had to get rid of four full stacks of my army so that I could afford to continue, and when I did that, everyone sort of declared war on me.

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    downloading the patch now....
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