Omertà: A small Mafia [Concluded]

[Greyblades]

Greyblades, Atheotes is claiming a Capo role. Seeing how neither you or Beefy are stepping up with one, I think we can assume that Atheotes is most likely innocent right now.

How can I claim capo if I didn't get it? I'm just a made man for goodness sake. And how does it make him innocent? I could claim consiglier and it would prove about as much.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think it would be prudent for the Don to show which group he has checked off as innocent without checking, and which group has been investigated thoroughly.

Greyblades first seemed almost disinterested in the game, now he defends himself vigorously. Smells like a traitor to me.

[Greyblades]

I wasn't interested because at the time I had my own game to set up. Right now I'm waiting for my PC to be fixed before starting said game so I'm taking the opportunity to get back into this one.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So then get into it. Who are your suspects and why.

[Greyblades]

Like I said I've been out of it until one and a half turns ago and I have little to no suspects but I have to point out that for three turns you have tried to get me lynched over and over again without any reason other than "he's lurking he must be mafia, now lynch him!". Normally I would think you were just trying to coax a lurker back into the game but Athetoes was doing it as well, at the same time, and you barely batted an eyelid. Your not usually this single-minded.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:Navarro

[pevergreen]

Vote: Greyblades

[Askthepizzaguy]

Like I said I've been out of it until one and a half turns ago and I have little to no suspects but I have to point out that for three turns you have tried to get me lynched over and over again without any reason other than "he's lurking he must be mafia, now lynch him!". Normally I would think you were just trying to coax a lurker back into the game but Athetoes was doing it as well, at the same time, and you barely batted an eyelid. Your not usually this single-minded.

You haven't really been "out of it", you've actually been active on this forum, even though you claim to be busy. Secondly, Atheotes was dead inactive on this forum for like 4 days, so much so that he never even participated or read the role PM for my Mini Mafia IV game until right before he got lynched, and he wasn't even the first lynch either. I've been going after you because you suspiciously stated that you weren't really into this game (I dont care to find your exact words) yet you're still posting, and now that your head could roll, you're very interested. Sure, your real life may conveniently or inconveniently fit into this equation, but to be honest, Splitpersonality was very much like Atheotes, and I never considered him a top suspect. So last round I was going after you and he capped himself, and now I'm going after you again. And the round before that, I considered you a suspect and would go after you the following round.

You haven't been cleared and it's time to find out which side you're on, and in the absence of an investigation, your death will do quite nicely. I'm not usually this single-minded? In most every game I create a suspect list and using methods that are quite logical but I won't disclose, I attempt to work down the list in a common sense fashion. Someone attacks Beefy? I put him on the probably innocent pile. Someone attacks pevergreen? Probably innocent. Someone attacks Tratorix? Probably innocent. White Eyes is in the slammer? Inactive, and now most likely very innocent. AVSM was declared innocent and the Don by the host, so he's out.

And so on, and so on. And now, we get to Greyblades, who along with very, very few other people, still has a question mark over his head. Now it's time to flip over the card and see if it isn't the ace of spades.

[Greyblades]

You haven't really been "out of it", you've actually been active on this forum, even though you claim to be busy.
That not what I meant by "out of it" I meant I had lost interest and had to do other things anyway so I wasn't likely to get back in before the game ended..

Secondly, Atheotes was dead inactive on this forum for like 4 days, so much so that he never even participated or read the role PM for my Mini Mafia IV game until right before he got lynched, and he wasn't even the first lynch either. I've been going after you because you suspiciously stated that you weren't really into this game (I dont care to find your exact words) yet you're still posting,
I'm still posting because I have gotten back into it.

and now that your head could roll, you're very interested.
Of course I'm interested. I got back in only to find I've been dropped into the deep end and about to drown.


You haven't been cleared and it's time to find out which side you're on, and in the absence of an investigation,
Actually, that's something I would like to ask; why wasn't I investigated last? I specifically requested it.

Oh never mind. There's nothing I can do that's going to change your mind and me getting worked up will just make things worse. GH please get it over with and end the turn.

[atheotes]

Vote: Abstain

[Askthepizzaguy]

Greyblades-

Do you deny that you're a legitimate suspect at this point? Secondly, you haven't voted for anyone. Is there a better choice than lynching you, and why? If you won't discuss and contribute and tell us who your suspects are, that may be reason enough to vote for you anyway.

[Greyblades]

I don't deny that I am a suspect, technically all of us but AVSM are, but to be frank I was kind of banking on the investigator investigating me last night phase. As for suspects I would have to say Beefy or Atheotes for obvious reasons but I cant say that they are more suspicious than I have been.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote: Greyblades

Why?

[A Very Super Market]

Something is not right.

Atheotes, as a capo, says he has investigative abilities every other night. He told me that Factionheir was innocent, Split was innocent, and now tells me that Greblades is innocent. Leaving Beefy as an uninvestigated man.

However, as pever and I know, you must investigate someone twice in order to deduce their faction, and only the role is revealed during the first investigation. Atheotes, any words? Aw hell, it doesn't matter.

I say that we continue to vote for Greyblades, since he is looking guilty anyways.

Definite innocents
Navarro
Me

Assumed innocents
pever (I haven't investigated him myself, and I don't have the time too)
ATPG (Investigated by pever)
Sasaki (Investigated by pever)

Probably innocent
Beefy (targeted night one)

Under suspicion
Atheotes (There was a second killer, but he only popped up on one night)
Greyblades (Uninvestigated, apart from a role investigation by Atheotes)

[Greyblades]

Doesn't that pretty much mean that i'm not a stoolie seeing as I cant actualy "stool" and get someone arrested?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Without revealing too much, I will say that not all investigation powers are created equal.

[Beefy187]

I seriously doubt the stooly will say "hey!! Investigate me next night!!" unless he has a special ability avoiding being investigated. Even in that case, I think the write up will somewhat tell us that the target has the ability to dodge investigation.

I don't trust Atheotes until he turns out innocent, or dead

[FactionHeir]

Righto, lets have a look at what we got:

Following from my last post, it seems that most of my suspicions were true.

So this leaves:

AVSM - Don
pever - Consigliere
atheotes - Capo
navarro, Greyblades, Sasaki, ATPG, Beefy - Mades

I would have thought navarro to be a Capo rather than atheotes judging from activity, but there seems to be quite a bit going on in the background overall with PM exchanging.

One bonus the town currently has is that its got 2 investigators, pever and atheotes. Chances are one of them will be picked off next night. I would imagine that the stoolies have to take out all non Mades to take out AVSM since otherwise they would havea t least tried to attack him by now.

The mafia effort seems to be very concentrated too judging from their targets. Only 2 (Beefy, Northnovas) have been Mades, the rest all had a higher rank. This suggests investigation capabilities. Maybe that would also explain the 2 kill night better than a recruitment? Like 2 kills, or 1 kill 1 investigation?

Regarding investigation, AVSM says that pever needs to use 2 investigates to get someones real alignment with the first one just telling the general role. Considering that a Capo seems to know who his mades are, that would also explain GH's comment with "not all investigation powers are created equal". So Capos essentially know the role of their underlings already and would thus head straight for the 2nd result rightaway if its one of their own underlings?

So I think it will depend on whether the premise (mafia must kill all higher ups before killing the Don, a bit like Swords in the Moon) holds true in which case all stoolies are Mades, or whether there's a twist and one of the higher ups (two would probably be unbalanced) is mafia.

Oh yeah, that reminds me, please say sorry for lynching me

One thing on the side that I noticed btw:
APTG and Sasaki were fighting each other but now they seem to agree on just about anything. That does seem rather odd.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm interesting. So instead of 1 detective, we have several, any of who'm can be traitors and who only get one result every two nights...

So we have avsm and beefy as confirmed innocents. Navarro I have seen no explanation for.

unvote:Navarro however.


Possible stoolie's:
pever
atpg
sasaki

atheotes
greyblades

Hmm, if grey blades is guilty, than atheotes is guilty. If either me or pizza is guilty, than pever is guilty.

This changes the possibilities (I'm assuming two mafia for the moment since it makes sense for balance...)

atheotes,pever

pever, pizza

pever, Sasaki

atheotes,greyblades


There is simply no way for all the claimed innocent results to be really innocent, unless both investigators are guilty. So we should lynch one of them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

APTG and Sasaki were fighting each other but now they seem to agree on just about anything. That does seem rather odd.

That would be because the person who investigated me and told me exactly what my role PM said about me also said Sasaki was innocent.

We really do have a good detective who can at least tell me exactly what my role PM says about me, and I trust that investigator. To be sure, Sasaki continuing to put me down as a suspect makes me puzzled, but I honestly don't care. We are doing just fine if we lynch Greyblades and if you want to kill me this round or next go right ahead, I'm nothing and nobody and nothing you do to me will even affect the ability of the Don to defend himself.

Greyblades, under EVERYONE's suspect list, is still a suspect. My vote stays there unless I see some reasons why not.

[Greyblades]

Is there anything that will change your mind, or are you just saying that to be nice?

[navarro951]

My explanation was given, I revealed myself, and was first to do so. While that is not 100 percent evidence i think it at least grants me something. Also, I have been somewhat convinced as to Greyblades' case so...

Unvote: Greyblades, Vote: Abstain for the moment.

[navarro951]

mmm..

Vote: Atheotes.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting closed.

[Greyblades]

Ho-hum, better luck next turn town.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That would be because the person who investigated me and told me exactly what my role PM said about me also said Sasaki was innocent.

We really do have a good detective who can at least tell me exactly what my role PM says about me, and I trust that investigator. To be sure, Sasaki continuing to put me down as a suspect makes me puzzled, but I honestly don't care.

What's your reason for trusting pever? GH said any of the roles besides avsm can be a stoolie.

We are doing just fine if we lynch Greyblades and if you want to kill me this round or next go right ahead, I'm nothing and nobody and nothing you do to me will even affect the ability of the Don to defend himself.

Any townie who offers himself up for lynch deserves to die.

Greyblades, under EVERYONE's suspect list, is still a suspect. My vote stays there unless I see some reasons why not.

Reasons why not: according to the detective results claimed by atheotes and pevergreen, one or both of them is guilty. Therefore, we lynch both of them.

Vote:Atheotes

[A Very Super Market]

Navarro was investigated twice by me.

[navarro951]

Navarro was investigated twice by me.

And i appreciate you proving my innocence, although i have a feeling I may be the next to get ratted on.

[A Very Super Market]

Perhaps, perhaps.

However, I get a feeling that Greyblades is truly scum. The other lynches, were just probing efforts. This one seems to be more than that.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day 6

Things were getting tense at Don Giampetro's secret hideout. Much behind-the-scenes discussion that had been happening for the past week was being laid out on the line, and some people were not too happy with the results. In particular, the "have-not" side of the table was still screaming at whatever it could, but now, at last, some fingers were being pointed at the "haves" side of the table.

All in all, it was a lively discussion, particularly at the end, after the Don said to wrap things up. Everyone looked on apprehensively as the Don tallied the votes cast. At first, it appeared as if Phil Lutz (Greyblades) would run away with it. However, in that final flurry of discussion at the end, maybe the tide would shift enough to keep him alive...

...no, it was not. Lutz, after being named as guilty, angrily stood up and started yelling at everybody, saying how they had all gotten it wrong - again. He was about to spit in the Don's face when Rocco and Moose snapped to attention and got in the way, one of their hands blocking Lutz's spit.

"Hey, you got spit on my hand," said Moose. "That's not a very nice thing to do," he continued, and slugged Lutz in the mouth. Phil went down hard, spitting up blood as he struggled to get up and failed. Instead, he was hauled up by the bodyguards and taken out to the car.

Everybody listened in silence as the car started up and drove off. The Schuylkill was starting to fill up with bodies. The Catalanos were now down to less than half strength.

Day 6 tally:

Greyblades: 3 (ATPG, AVSM, pever)
atheotes: 2 (Beefy, navarro)

Abstained: 2 (atheotes, Sasaki)

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Active: (7)
A Very Super Market
Beefy187
navarro951
pevergreen
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
Sasaki Kojiro

Arrested:
White_eyes:D
Northnovas
Tratorix

Executed:
Shinseikhaan
Captain Blackadder
FactionHeir
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Greyblades