DRM Makes Pirates of Us All

**rory_20_uk** · 05-28-2009, 19:42

I like disks. I don't need an internet connection. I can reinstall inside of a day as its on DVD. I don't need my HDD containing every game I might play as I have a DVD folder. I often burn mods I like onto DVDs to store with them in case I can't get them again.

I like the idea that once one has downloaded additions a torrent client distributes it to others to take load off the servers as well as get hold of older content. But when I get it I want control of how I store it.

Right up there with the fact backup DVD movies play the movies right away, whereas the originals faff for ages with intros, warnings, disclaimers and other drivel.

**Xiahou** · 05-28-2009, 19:47

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

I like disks. I don't need an internet connection. I can reinstall inside of a day as its on DVD. I don't need my HDD containing every game I might play as I have a DVD folder. I often burn mods I like onto DVDs to store with them in case I can't get them again.

That is definitely my preferred way of getting a game.

Originally Posted by Beskar

The benefits however are a DRM-free system (other than Steam itself)

Steam is DRM.

**Beskar** · 05-28-2009, 19:51

I on the other hand dislike Disk. You get burdened with trying to store them, you got to find them, especially as I am never in the same location, I have to wait or held-up if I have to go out of my way to go and get disks. The best way is a service such as Steam where I can just download within an hour tops have it all working and fully up-to-date.

If the game gets deleted, I can just re-download it if I want to return to it.

However, I also do own an External 1 Terrabyte Hard-drive where I keep .ISO copies and movies, etc.

**A Terribly Harmful Name** · 05-28-2009, 20:05

Gamersgate owns Steam at any time of the day. No silly downloader, just buy, dl and play 0% hassle in a matter of minutes. I pity those who play Empire with Steam...

**Lemur** · 05-28-2009, 20:39

Originally Posted by Christopher Burgoyne

I pity those who play Empire with Steam...

Um, whether you bought it on disks or not, you have to use Steam to play Empire. Maybe I'm not understanding the comment ...

**Scurvy** · 05-28-2009, 20:48

I really dislike Steam, it has caused me countless problems, and irritates me much.

**A Terribly Harmful Name** · 05-29-2009, 00:07

Originally Posted by Lemur

Um, whether you bought it on disks or not, you have to use Steam to play Empire. Maybe I'm not understanding the comment ...

Yep. I pity those who play Empire at all. Because it's a crappy game with a crappy protection scheme.

**Hooahguy** · 05-29-2009, 00:53

lets leave game commentary out of this, shall we?

**drone** · 05-28-2009, 20:31

Originally Posted by Beskar

If the game gets deleted, I can just re-download it if I want to return to it.

Assuming Valve is still around as a company when you try to revisit. Any game requiring a internet server is just a rental. You can be denied access at any time, for any reason.

**Hooahguy** · 05-28-2009, 21:26

Originally Posted by Beskar

I on the other hand dislike Disk. You get burdened with trying to store them, you got to find them, especially as I am never in the same location, I have to wait or held-up if I have to go out of my way to go and get disks. The best way is a service such as Steam where I can just download within an hour tops have it all working and fully up-to-date.

If the game gets deleted, I can just re-download it if I want to return to it.

However, I also do own an External 1 Terrabyte Hard-drive where I keep .ISO copies and movies, etc.

not true anymore. most games on cd only need you to use the disk for installation. Crysis, ETW (disk version), and Company of Heroes.
as of last year, they needed internet connection to play without a disk, as is the case with CoH, but now with Crysis Warhead and Crysis Wars, you dont need the disk even if you arent connected to the internet.
all this makes life easier for us gamers who use laptops, like me, who doesnt want to carry around disks. as of now, i have 4 games on my laptop, and only 1 disk, which i keep in the cd drive: Crysis, CoH, ETW and Battlefield 2142 (which needs a disk to play).
works for me.
also, disks are better for the people, like me, who have somewhat slow internet connections, who dont want to wait an eternity for the game to download.

**Caius** · 05-28-2009, 21:31

Sure, but its annoying when you have that OLD 10 year game that you want to play but its damn too damaged to read Autorun.exe.

**Hooahguy** · 05-28-2009, 21:48

would 10-year old games be on steam? i never used steam until ETW.

my impression is that with the new "no-cd" games, you can safely store your cds for future need, like in 10 years.

**Lemur** · 05-28-2009, 22:13

Actually, I've had some old game CDs go bad. One of them couldn't have been more than seven years old. Let us all bless Good Old Games for keeping the flame, or I would never have been able to replay Fallout.