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    Default Re: The weakest argument for gun ownership in the USA

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    It is light years far from being a fact, it is your personal opinion that lacks any kind of proof. The fact is that Marines will do anything they are told, because blind obedience is in their code of honour, that's how they are trained. If they are told, that evil men funded and staffed by terrorist organizations are willing to overthrow the federal government and establish a Muslim Republic, they won't hesitate shooting their own compatriots.
    They will obvious shoot their own families for the state. If the government is that unpopular, it would have breached all aspects including the army. People would desert the army and take up arms along side their friends and families.

    People in the army aren't idiots. They might be conditioned for obedience but that only goes so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    Presuming the state is intentionally acting against the interests of the people, moreover wants to oppress them. Why would you presume that?
    Power corrupts. I think politics today shows you how corrupt politicians are, look at examples such as the MP expenses scandal. Do you think the state doesn't oppress people and trample on our civil liberties? The "anti-terrorist" laws, which all they do is strip away our rights in the guise of protection, how a earlier post highlighted. US government is far from the shining beacon of democracy as it claims to be, how it ties up its own citizens and takes them to Guantamo Bay where they are tortured without rights or a fair trial, or even any trial at all.
    Last edited by Beskar; 05-29-2009 at 14:51.
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