Strategos Total War

[Old_King_Coal]

i really feel that the map we have now is going to stay, I am aware that a lot of research will have to be done but that's cool with me! I have more stuff in the mod now than can be included in 1 hotmail email so how about I give you a diversity of units (not all) and you work from there?

PS. I will need ur hotmail thingy

[Maion Maroneios]

I've sent you an e-mail along with my message on the site. If it isn't included, you'll probably see it on my membership status. I'm willing to test hoplite warfare for now, I have some ideas that might work.

Maion

[vartan]

I recommend Box.net for online collaboration (i.e. for files, etc). I've used it for large projects (e.g. programs).

[Old_King_Coal]

can you include forums in it?

PS Maion how's things going with the hoplitees stuff?

and Ghaust will u need me to include cities or will they come later?

[Ghaust the Moor]

Cities would be nice, but I don't need them.

[Maion Maroneios]

can you include forums in it?

PS Maion how's things going with the hoplitees stuff?

and Ghaust will u need me to include cities or will they come later?

Haven't started doing the tests yet. Will do so today, though don't expect things to get ready too soon. I am, after all, on vacation and I'm only doing this on my (scarse) leisure time.

As for the cities, you should consider doing some research on the most important cities of each region during the starting date. I could give you a list of cities that could be added in mainland Greece.

Maion

[Subotan]

First, this is a great idea for a mod, but there are some things which you need to be aware of.

well since this is done mainly for BI I have had to limit what I can include. A lot of minor factions are going to be represented by rebels, for the simple reason that the space just isn't there to include more factions.

Here is a list of the planned factions:
The Illyrian tribes
The Dacian Tribes
The Thracian Tribes
The Galatian Tribes
Scythia
Etruscans
Tarentum

Rome

These factions would all need to be split up into lots of mini factions, or given more detailed names, especially the Illyrians, Etruscans and Tarentum. I'm sure you'll have already done some research, but go to your local university library and ask for stuff about Ancient Greece. They'll have tons of stuff, and more importantly, potential factions, unit designs and the like. Luckily, MTW:II Gives you LOADS more factions slots, and a better AI. There's no point in making a mod for RTW when it's five year old.
P.S. Rome was just a village by the strart of this mod, and by the end was a moderatly sized city state, so it's probably not worth including.

[Old_King_Coal]

I don't own M2TW so I'm not planning on using it. Also I realize that the factions would be split up but I really don't have the room to include those extra things. I would if I could :(

and I feel that Rome does have a place here since Tarentum is in Italy, also since the map has to be rectangular in shape you need to include all of Italy to have scythia and the Bosphoros. So i feel that Rome is there to stay

[Subotan]

I don't own M2TW so I'm not planning on using it.

You could get it for about a fiver. Srsly, working with RTW now is like being a saddle designer around the time the Model T came out.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Medieval-II-.../dp/B000ENN9AG
http://www.amazon.com/Medieval-II-To.../dp/B000FUONLM

To be fair, you'll probably want Kingdoms, but it's a small price to pay for making a great game. Besides, you'll have to buy it anyway when EBII comes out :D

and I feel that Rome does have a place here since Tarentum is in Italy, also since the map has to be rectangular in shape you need to include all of Italy to have scythia and the Bosphoros. So i feel that Rome is there to stay

The Etruscans/Samnites/Megale Hellas states/Syracuse and Carthage should cover Italy

[Zarax]

You could get it for about a fiver. Srsly, working with RTW now is like being a saddle designer around the time the Model T came out.

Except that if you count the expansions no mod has yet managed to fully use the entire feature set.

[Old_King_Coal]

Srsly, working with RTW now is like being a saddle designer around the time the Model T came out.

I dunno I still like it, I'll probably move on to M2TW someday but for now I'll start off with Rome and get some skills and improve my talents.

[Subotan]

M2TW is essentially RTW with baubles on top. You're only shooting yourself in the foot if you don't use M2TW.

[Ghaust the Moor]

More mods have been made for RTW because it is easier to use. Simple as that. Name one really important mod for M2TW?

[Old_King_Coal]

Ya I agree with Ghaust I looked over the modding guides in M2TWH and they are quite complex. I'm not interested in something that difficult at this point.

[Maion Maroneios]

Guys, all interested members please subscribe to this Social Group:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/group.php?groupid=93

Maion

[Subotan]

More mods have been made for RTW because it is easier to use. Simple as that.

Really? I was not aware of that.

Name one really important mod for M2TW

...EBII. Duh.

Guys, all interested members please subscribe to this Social Group:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/group.php?groupid=93

Maion

Does interested include people who can't do with modding, but are interested in this mod?

[Maion Maroneios]

I guess those who are going to work for the mod. All the rest can just write their supporting posts here

Maion

[Ghaust the Moor]

Shouldn't we make a thread in the mods forum now?

[Maion Maroneios]

If we get enough members, I guess we could apply for the creation of such a thread.

Maion

[Old_King_Coal]

it would be great if we had enough people to make a thread, but the requirement post dsen't say how many members are required to be considered. Maybe we could try it?

[Azathoth]

Name one really important mod for M2TW

Dominion of the Sword, Deus lo Volt, Broken Crescent, Stainless Steel, Third Age: Total War...

And about the Galatian tribes...they were under the control of the Achaemenids, weren't they?

The Celtic Galatians didn't settle there until like 280 BC.

[Maion Maroneios]

You can apply for a subforum to be created and I have (for a PBM game), but the Moderators require lots of organization, motivation and enough members. Trust me.

Maion

[Old_King_Coal]

@Maion: ok I guess It'll be a while before we can go there. Let's just putter around here and in the group

@Azathoth: I should probabl change galatians to celts. As they were independant. They also have very good place in this mod as the Celtic King Brenneus attempted to take Greece in 279 BCE.

[Skullheadhq]

Somebody needs my help here?
And really, kingdoms is very much the same thing and you have 10 extra faction slots. So you could do all city states you want.

And how much provinces are we going to do?
What is the start date?

Here's map of 550BC

[Maion Maroneios]

Yeah King, Skullheadhq and satalexton want to help. I guess both of you guys should state what you can help with, this helps organizing the work. Also, if you do get into the team I can add you to the Social Group.

Maion

[Subotan]

How much harder is Kingdoms to mod than RTW? Is it proportional to the benefits you can get out of the upgrade?

[Phalanx300]

I you guys want to make the mod go ahead, be sure to go Historical.

I think I'll stick with Hegemonia for now.

If you guys need any information on Sparta you can give be a call. I've noticed you guys took the bodyguard emblem for a whole unit, I suggest to use them for the officers to represent the two bodyguards better!

[Skullheadhq]

I can help with the load screens, text files, UI, banners.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

But I can't skin or 3d model

[Foot]

@Azathoth: I should probabl change galatians to celts. As they were independant. They also have very good place in this mod as the Celtic King Brenneus attempted to take Greece in 279 BCE.

The celts didn't even arrive in asia minor until the 270s BC, so they were neither subjects of the persian king or free people. They weren't even there!

Foot

[Skullheadhq]

What do you think of this map?



And in 550 this happened: (yeah its wikipedia didn't have time really)
559 BC — King Cambyses I of Anshan dies and is succeeded by his son Cyrus II the Great.
558 BC — Hegesias is removed as Archon of Athens.
558 BC — The Chinese state of Jin defeats its rival Qin in battle.
556 BC — Pisistratus is exiled from Athens to Euboea.
556 BC — Labashi-Marduk succeeds Neriglissar as king of Babylon.
556 BC/555 BC — Nabonidus succeeds Labashi-Marduk as king of Babylon.
c. 550 BC — Colonisation of Greeks ends.
550 BC — Abdera is destroyed by the Thracians.
550 BC — The Temple of Artemis completed in Ephesus.
550 BC — Cyrus II the Great overthrows Astyages of the Medes, establishing the Persian Empire.

So in 550 we could include the Persian Empire