Persian Archers Question

**ARCHIPPOS** · 06-27-2009, 20:00

subeshis are quite expensive though...for missile troops i go for a mixture of persian archers/archer spearmen/slingers... behind phalangites those guys nicely make up for each other's shortcomings and work wonders in missile duels ... i haven't tested Indian longbowmen in missile duels yet but what did you expect??? they have an upkeep of 113 or sth... i say for their money the longest range/deadly machette edge is not that bad :)

**bobbin** · 06-27-2009, 20:48

Indian Longbowmen are rubbish at archery duels, they have a crappy range (170m) and a lot less arrows (16 per man) than most archers, in meele though they are a different story.

**TruePraetorian** · 06-27-2009, 21:00

In my current Baktrian campaign I also wondered the same thing. What I noticed is that, like everyone is saying, the Persian Archers have better range and are more capable in ranged battles.

I also took notice on how the Persian Archers are much faster moving then their counterparts.

**ARCHIPPOS** · 06-27-2009, 21:15

i'm kind of curious abt how the Thanvare Parsig (Heavy Persian Archers) guys might behave...you know them???The red smurf archer guys??? they're fuck expensive sure but supposedly "they have greater range and penetrating power than their Achaemenid forebears and with their basic armour are not as vulnerable as their more lightly equipped brethren"

anyone tried them before??? they are very high on "my-once-i-get-filthy-rich-fantasy-elite-fullstack"...

**Mikhail Mengsk** · 06-27-2009, 22:08

Mmmh i'm playing Baktria and i found them not yet useful. Sure they are better than standard Persian Archers, but not SO much for their cost. I'll take them only when i will have plenty of mnais, just because they looks good XD

Archer-Spearmen are very useful, but I have to remind to switch skirmish mode off. I enjoy their ability to fire arrows and to hold the line when the first enemy units charged them, until my first line countercharged the enemy. THeir cheapness makes them even more effective. Also, they have more arrows (why?!?).

Anyway, persian archers are the backbone of my missile power thanks to their range. Make them level up and you will cover the sun with deadly arrows, taking down nasty enemy missile troops from safe distance.

**Watchman** · 06-28-2009, 00:34

Originally Posted by ARCHIPPOS

i'm kind of curious abt how the Thanvare Parsig (Heavy Persian Archers) guys might behave...you know them???The red smurf archer guys??? they're fuck expensive sure but supposedly "they have greater range and penetrating power than their Achaemenid forebears and with their basic armour are not as vulnerable as their more lightly equipped brethren"

anyone tried them before??? they are very high on "my-once-i-get-filthy-rich-fantasy-elite-fullstack"...

From what I can recall without firing up teh Notepad++ to check, they should indeed have better bows ergo range - Scythian composites instead of the less pokey Persian type IIRC. So yeah, they should be extra bit shooty on top of being rather more arrow-resistant and actually almost capable of fighting hand-to-hand (0.1 lehtality shortsword instead of 0.04 knife does that).

Originally Posted by TruePraetorian

I also took notice on how the Persian Archers are much faster moving then their counterparts.

Weird. Pretty sure most archers ought to be on the "fast" animations on account of, you know, not exactly being weighed down by heavy armour. The exception being the Indians in their melee mode, as there wasn't a "fast" two-hander anim available...

**vartan** · 06-28-2009, 16:06

How do the Persian archers compare to Caucasian archers?

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 06-28-2009, 16:17

Caucasian Archers are better.

**Nirvanish** · 06-28-2009, 16:20

Caucasian Archers
Damage-6
Range-180
Ammo-28
Secondary-.04 knife
Defense-8

Persian Archers
Damage-4
Range-192.5
Ammo-25
Secondary-.04 knife
Defense-8

**Andy1984** · 06-28-2009, 00:25

Originally Posted by TruePraetorian

In my current Baktrian campaign I also wondered the same thing. What I noticed is that, like everyone is saying, the Persian Archers have better range and are more capable in ranged battles.

I also took notice on how the Persian Archers are much faster moving then their counterparts.

This is exactly the reason why I almost always prefer persian archers.

**Tyrfingr** · 07-01-2009, 10:43

Originally Posted by bobbin

Indian Longbowmen are rubbish at archery duels, they have a crappy range (170m) and a lot less arrows (16 per man) than most archers, in meele though they are a different story.

Indian longbowmen is probably the best unit to have in besieged cities. Bows that gives quite a punch, and an armour-piercing sword cool enough to be in Final Fantasy 7, beats the crap out of most elite units.