EB Online Tournement Battle Report Thread

[antisocialmunky]

Well, good riddence. You have shown no willingness to help ot accept anything other than what you think is right. All you've done is complained. When I asked you to help, I get nothing. A magical silence that's followed up with more complaining later on. I have tried to be accomodating to everyone and willing to change the rules. What do you think these tournements just happen? That rules can be easy to come up with and balance is something that magically happens? I've put in alot of work to try and find a good balance and I WISH that someone else would have the initiative to find problems and show them. But they still have shown willingness to help - you have done nothing but complained validly perhaps but with no proof or willingness to show me.

IF SOMEONE, ANYONE posted a replay of Macedonia getting so disadvantaged AS that, I would have been more inclined to listen to you, you know? And I am. I'm going to go ahead with the Heavy Infantry limitations later this week. If anyone cares to post the replays of battles using a 12 Heavy Infantry(infantry with out fast moving) please do so.

However, I can't really say I'm happy that you're leaving. It would have been nice to have a good Mak player around.

[Maion Maroneios]

Well, goto hell Maion. You have shown no willingness to help ot accept anything other than what you think is right. All you've done is complained. When I asked you to help, I get nothing. A magical silence that's followed up with more complaining later on. I have tried to be accomodating to everyone and willing to change the rules. What do you think these tournements just happen? That rules can be easy to come up with and balance is something that magically happens? IF SOMEONE, ANYONE posted a replay of Macedonia getting so disadvantaged AS that, I would have been more incliend to listen to you, you know?

No one cares that you're leaving so don't make a big deal about it.

Thanks for that first thing you said, ASM. That adds up nicely of what idea I have of you in my book. And I didn't want to make a big deal of it, sorry if it sounded as such. I never personally meant anything against you, so again sorry if this sounded as such. As for others posting replays of Makedonia, let's just say that nobody seems to have had any real problems so far or was too bored or unwilling to point out the weaknesses that are created by these rules.

To be honest, I believe you're doing a good job ASM. As good as you can, but for some reason you seem to have something against me and don't listen to me when I point out weaknesses in your rules. I've given you many alternatives and shared my ideas with you, but you were always too "smart" by pointing out I was either wrong or that your rules would work out so well.

Maion

[antisocialmunky]

Well, I asked for tests. No one gave me anything. I was just frustrated because you have no idea how much work I've put in when I said that. The reason why it seems I've had something against you is that you never gave me any proof. I tested my ideas, they seemed to work well. You said you would test and didn't show me anything. I'm jsut pissed off I overlooked something this big. I thought Maks performed better than this at this test point. I'll admit when I'm wrong but I'm not going to do so without proof. If you have a complaint. Make it valid by proving your point rather than just pointing it out ad nauseum - it makes it sound like you're just complaining and no one likes that one person that keeps pointing something out and then acts smug when the plan goes to hell. If you're really commited to improving something, then you would put forht more effort to demonstrate your idea. Prove it, that's all I've asked for.

Well let this parting be amicable. Thanks and good luck.

[Flavius_Belisarius]

Well, I asked for tests. No one gave me anything. I was just frustrated because you have no idea how much work I've put in when I said that. The reason why it seems I've had something against you is that you never gave me any proof. I tested my ideas, they seemed to work well. You said you would test and didn't show me anything. I'm jsut pissed off I overlooked something this big. I thought Maks performed better than this at this test point. I'll admit when I'm wrong but I'm not going to do so without proof. If you have a complaint. Make it valid by proving your point rather than just pointing it out ad nauseum - it makes it sound like you're just complaining and no one likes that one person that keeps pointing something out and then acts smug when the plan goes to hell. If you're really commited to improving something, then you would put forht more effort to demonstrate your idea. Prove it, that's all I've asked for.

Well let this parting be amicable. Thanks and good luck.

I personally really understand you. Moreover its kind a impossible to make a 100 % fair balance, and even if one or two factions are stronger it shouldnt matter is, because its just a game...

But pls Antisocialmunky, dont ignore me the whol time xD Pls update the battle i posted ^^ And is my idea really so bad to make the roman infantery a bit more expensive ? Simply want answers if its crap i wanna know it !

[tsidneku]

I played two more matches with Flavius_Belisarius last night.
He has posted the last match already, a couple posts above. He was victorious in that one. ASM, please update the scores accordingly when you have a chance. It ought to be 3-1 for me, and 1-3 for Flavius. Thanks.

Game #3: Flavius_Belisarius vs tsidneku

This one was extraordinarily close. I snuck by with a victory with some effective cavalry charges to route his remaining forces. I think the victory was decided when his general fled from the battlefield.

[antisocialmunky]

Oh, that must have slipped in as I was posting the checkpoint. My bad. It is credited but tsidneku will have to post his win.(Edit, good - I'll update later today when I post the scoring checkpoint.

And yeah their heavy infantry is ridiculously cheap but time and time again, I have seen the Maks take 1 experience Roman armies from the last tournement at 40K just because 3 Companions and 2 Friends have a bad tendency of killing all the Roman Cav they can field and just having a field day with what's left of the infantry. It was quite even as the final tally showed(Maks won 1 more than the Romans :-p and I only beat Irish because of that ridiculous cav battle in the woods + phalanx exploit and I beat Gabheed because I managed to kill his general out of pure luck). I didn't realize that Maks had such a big problem fielding decent armies. I did some army composition testing last night after ACS posted that replay and yeah its a little tighter than for the other factions to say the least.

I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea putting the money back at 40K for good. Everytime anyone's touched it, its turned out weird. I guess its best for the overall balance but not that great for the barb vs unbarb match up... except now they can do 2 vs 1 team games and such. Sigh oh well. I'll pop in for a few games tonight to see how the Romans can be limitted other than imposing Maion's artificial mnai limit that they can't use or something. Honestly I'm not sure. I'm not convinced that the massive ACS experienced infantry army is a Mak beating force at 40K though. Heck, I played an epic game against Maion using the the experienced legion and only won because a horde of Samnites trapped the cavalry in a corner. The Maks are quite powerful if they can get their horses.

@editted edu. - This would be ideal especially since the KH are mising 2 units but it would be quite messy telling people how to do the replacement with all the complaining etc...

[vartan]

So Jack why don't you go ahead and change back to 40k, remove the chevron, and limit heavy inf to 12 and 8 respectively?

[Maion Maroneios]

Heck, I played an epic game against Maion using the the experienced legion and only won because a horde of Samnites trapped the cavalry in a corner.

Remind me when that happened exactly?

Maion

[antisocialmunky]

I could have sworn it was you. Maybe it was someone else? I remember it was against on of the better Mak players that wasn't IrishHitman. But yeah, I formed a triangle with my legionaires that was surrounded by phalanxes on one side. I threw my Pedites into your Thracian Skirms and Hoplites. You then tried to out flank me. I let you and draw your cavalry behind my triangle. I then lobbed all my spearmen at you cavalry and we had a running cav battle into the corner. I then ran my cavalry the hell away behind your phalanx and started charging it.

Then your cav came back and we had a final cav fight. Your general routed and my men finally surrounded your forces for the win. It was very close and its fights like that why I think that a chevroned up Rome is balanced vs Macedon @ 40K. If the Companions had managed to get around my Samnites in force, it would have been game.

I'll change mnai back to 40K tonight :-\ I rather get a game as Maks in before I do at 40K against ACS(preferably) or someone else. They are pretty much invincible if they preserve their cavalry arm.

I'll post the replay tonight. I could have sworn it was you. I think we fought another time and you were complainng about Burebista always hiding his archers in the woods. That was like his one and only trick. :-p

[mountaingoat]

[antisocialmunky]

A wonderful start huh?