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    Default Re: KOTF mod

    50-70 would be fine if it can be done by tomorrow, maybe even 50-80.

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    Vanilla is fine. Characters should have a relatively short life. Characters living to 80 is too long. If you lived to 60, you had a good life.


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    All right, I've modded descr_strat so that France starts with 100 diplomats, all age 50 and named Etienne Tristram. I'll see when they drop.

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    Tristan and I played with a couple of age ranges, eventually settling on trying for around 35-80 or 40-80. Those are the ranges starting characters kept dying within a couple turns on.
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    All right, I finished my first test. The first column is how many turns the diplomat lived past 50, the second is how many died at the start of that turn.

    <max_age uint="70"/>
    <max_age_before_death uint="71"/>
    <old_age uint="50"/>

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    1 0
    2 5
    3 2
    4 6
    5 3
    6 3
    7 5
    8 0
    9 7
    10 4
    11 3
    12 4
    13 3
    14 4
    15 2
    16 5
    17 2
    18 2
    19 3
    20 2
    21 1
    22 1
    23 5
    24 2
    25 2
    26 4
    27 0
    28 2
    29 2
    30 2
    21 2
    32 3
    33 1
    34 1
    35 1
    36 4
    37 0
    38 1
    39 0
    40 0
    41 0
    42 1


    The problem here is that the majority died in less than 16 turns, at the age of 57. I'm operating under the assumption that it's best if just as many people live past 60 as die before sixty, so it balances out without shifting from the normal death age. I'll try 40-80 now; do that about three times and see how it goes.

    Zim, quick question: Did you set <max_age_before_death uint="81"/> For those tests? In order to spread out the deaths, it should only be one higher than 'max_age uint'. Any higher and people start dropping off really quickly once they reach the minimum age, like in vanilla LTC.
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    Tristan ran the tests, but I believe he did.
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    All right, second test.

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    1 0
    2 1
    3 1
    4 4
    5 2
    6 1
    7 0
    8 5
    9 0
    10 1
    11 5
    12 1
    13 3
    14 3
    15 2
    16 2
    17 3
    18 3
    19 4
    20 0
    21 2
    22 3
    23 2
    24 1
    25 2
    26 0
    27 1
    28 0
    29 0
    30 1
    31 1
    32 0
    33 0
    34 0
    35 0
    36 3
    37 0
    38 1
    39 3
    40 4
    41 2
    42 2
    43 4
    44 1
    45 2
    46 4
    47 1
    48 3
    49 1
    50 1
    51 0
    52 5
    53 1
    54 0
    55 0
    56 1
    57 1
    58 0
    59 0
    60 0
    61 0
    62 1
    63 0
    64 3
    65 0
    66 2


    Despite the change, results were similarly poor. Most diplomats were dead by age 52. Interestingly, both tests show the half-way point at about 33% through the span: 35% and 30% respectively. This suggests that if we choose a range of 40-100, or 50-80, half will die before age 60 and half will live after age 60. Gonna run another test from 40-80, 'disable_ai' sure makes this run quick.

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