KOTF OOC Thread

[AussieGiant]

Ramses,

Louis has an adoption can you please address this in the save or let me know.

[AussieGiant]

Ok we have an issue. I just moved Econ and YLC characters out of Bruges and put them with the King, the game put the city on auto manage mode. It went red faced and I can not do anything but select the various global policies.

This will make Bruges rebel if it can not be solved.

[econ21]

...the game put the city on auto manage mode.

That's odd. Have you tried going to options and clicking manage all settlements (or whatever it is called)?

On the adoptions, is there any point accepting more avatars if we have no players waiting for one? We gave ourselves so many recruitable generals at the start of the game, I would have thought we should turn new generals down (except for sons coming of age). I am wondering if the birth rate of our existing generals depends on how many we already have (ie if there is a cap on generals). If it does, presumably we'd rather have babies spawning for our existing generals than adopt playerless generals.

[Ramses II CP]

I expect I'll be getting all the adoptions until my line is filled up, and you can be sure I'll be rejecting them all.

AG I'm pming you about the adoption and save matters.

[AussieGiant]

replied Ramses,

Econ I'll give it a shot.

[AussieGiant]

Econ. problem solved thanks.

But Bruges will turn red and possibly revolt if I move you and YLC character out.

[OverKnight]

Ok we have an issue. I just moved Econ and YLC characters out of Bruges and put them with the King, the game put the city on auto manage mode. It went red faced and I can not do anything but select the various global policies.

This will make Bruges rebel if it can not be solved.

A few times when I was Chancellor or Megas, I got a save back and some settlements were set to auto-manange, the little cog in the settlement name on the map. I don't think anyone manually changed it, it may be a result of swapping the save around between versions of M2 on different systems.

I switched auto-manage off where ever I found it, easy to see from the campaign map, and that took care of it.

[econ21]

With Zim's and TCs approval, I've taken the liberty of writing a story to cover YLCs exit from the game. YLC told Zim to remove Gaeten from the game in whatever manner he likes. I know some people wanted to see a duel to the death, but I am leery about exiting players trying to take other avatars down with them as they quit. Also, I'm a little concerned about YLC and wanted to make Gaeten's departure from the PBM low key so we don't add to his troubles.

[_Tristan_]

Sorry to hear that... I hope the King's fury over Bruges had nothing to do with that...

[OverKnight]

I see the besiege a town from a bridge, or in this case a ford, and wait for the relief force tactic is being used again.

Can we call it the "Hugues Gambit^TM"? Hope it worked as well for you Tristan as it did for me.

[econ21]

I hope the King's fury over Bruges had nothing to do with that...

No, I don't think it was a major factor. I think YLC was a bit frustrated he could not fight battles, but my perception is that he pulled out of the PBM for reasons that were essentially unrelated to the game.

In passing, I should say that one thing I would like to use the Order for OOC is to as a mechanism to rotate the control of an army and a province between knights, so that more players get a chance to do stuff without having reached the normal rank required. For example, if the Order had a province, then the Captain could stand for Seneschal (currently restricted to landowners). Similarly, if it had infantry, then the Captain knight would have a chance to fight some battles. I know this will require time and some IC machinations - perhaps some rules changes if we want to be legalistic - but that's just a heads-up about the OOC thinking behind the Order. It's basically to give some players a chance to do stuff while the Kingdom is still too small to support most players having their own army and/or a province. (And I think keeping the Kingdom small for some time is a good thing for the challenge of the PBM.)

But Bruges will turn red and possibly revolt if I move you and YLC character out.

If Bruges is allocated to a House, then the governor might be happy to keep it from going red... [nudges Tristan]

[_Tristan_]

I see the besiege a town from a bridge, or in this case a ford, and wait for the relief force tactic is being used again.

Can we call it the "Hugues Gambit^TM"? Hope it worked as well for you Tristan as it did for me.

Worked nice, thank you... Scored an heroic victory and Antwerp

The butcher's bill :

[OverKnight]

Nice work with the story econ, chivalry for the greater good.

Seems plausible, as a lot of the Varangians, AFAIK, in this period were Saxons displaced from England by the Norman take over. Why not an exiled Frenchman or two?

[_Tristan_]

Yes, truly nice work Econ...

And to YLC, you'll be missed... Come back soon... France will grow and the threats with it...

[OverKnight]

Worked nice, thank you... Scored an heroic victory and Antwerp

The butcher's bill :

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I was worried you didn't have enough spears for that battle, but I guess a skilled player like you with that much cavalry balanced things out. I look forward to the battle report.

Still, I am shocked, shocked that you didn't pull this off just using Philippe's BG. You're slipping.

[_Tristan_]

Yes it was a wash-rinse-repeat process... I'm surprised at how much friendly fire kills I suffered... Not enough micro-management of the missile units... Though the merc Xbows have done wonders, accounting for nearly a quarter of the kills by themselves...

My main fear was losing one of the other avatars... Hence the kills difference between those and Philippe

[Vladimir]

OK, you people have me feeling *highly* inadequate now. Either that or I'm in a state of disbelief over so many lopsided victories. I need to go back to fighting dirty against the computer.

[AussieGiant]

Don't worry Vlad (can I call you that), Tristan's another one of these freaks who can take down a full stack with a RBG unit and a blunt teaspoon.

Rather boring Tristan, I mean what's the point.

Econ, excellent write up and very well handled.

Taking the save to finish off the turn.

[deguerra]

Yeah just ignore Tristan

Nice work frenchie!

[Vladimir]

Exactly. A Frenchman has me questioning my masculinity.

[_Tristan_]

Thanks for the compliments... But I had good teachers in FactionHeir, Ramses II CP and Overknight (and some others too)...

Never underestimate the chauvinism of the French... FTW

[AussieGiant]

Are you on a personal crusade or something Tristan?

[_Tristan_]

Paying back the Germans for WWII

[Vladimir]

Preemptive payback.

[OverKnight]

The inherent in game aggressiveness of Tristan coupled with the recruiting power of being King is a sight to behold.

Speaking of crusades AG, you have obviously have your own issues with Celts considering your goal to be Edward Longshanks and Oliver Cromwell all rolled into one. After Dublin, are you going to bust up Scotland and go for the Gaelic Trifecta?

[_Tristan_]

The inherent in game aggressiveness of Tristan coupled with the recruiting power of being King is a sight to behold.

True, but I cannot thank enough the Order players for trusting me with their avatars... I know what it means to most in terms of involvement in the game ant time devoted to create those characters.

[_Tristan_]

I've just noticed that the Queen died last turn (1089)... Will have to write something about that...

[Ramses II CP]

Oh man, we'll have to have a royal funeral in the midst of our war eh? Have to think about how Louis would react to that.

I won't take any credit for teaching people about tearing up AI armies! For me, anyway, it all goes back to the speed rush guys and those challenges the Ghazette ran long, long ago. I need to write up Valencia sometime. The Jinettes and El Cid combined with my haste did some significant damage.

[OverKnight]

As the forces of France gird themselves for war and a climatic battle, they look up from their grim preperations. The sun is being consumed by shadow, an eclipse! A harbinger of doom. All the frenetic activity grinds to a halt as the world is consumed in noonday darkness.


So I guess the forum is up and running again barring another calamity.

[Vladimir]

Freaky. I thought we got hit hard again.