KOTF OOC Thread

[Cecil XIX]

...but what caused him to gain "Lazy" as a trait last turn? What causes that, he's been in the field and moving constantly so I'm not sure.

Looking at export_descr_character_traits, it seems you can only get it when you come of age or when a new brother is adopted.

...So I have no idea.

[_Tristan_]

Maybe the marriage of Barbus Selvo did it, then or rather Charles coming of age, last turn, was it not ?

[ULC]

Just FYI, I'm going to be out with the family to do an early birthday for one of my Grandmothers. If I end up in a battle, please have Ramses conduct the battle if it is urgent, otherwise I should be back to complete it tomorrow.

[OverKnight]

I won't be picking up the save until Sunday. I'm a bit busy this weekend with work and friends.

Apologies.

[Braden]

Looking at export_descr_character_traits, it seems you can only get it when you come of age or when a new brother is adopted.

...So I have no idea.

Ahhh...either the adoption or Charles, curse the whelp! Pity, without the movement penalty Henri might have made it to Hamburg this turn. Not sure I want to chance it with just his bodyguard.

[ULC]

I'm sorry for not posting in this thread earlier, but I might as well state it now - I did not intentionally kill CDF's character, and I felt so bad that his had died and mine had not. As such, I feel I must withdraw from KotF due to this, and will at most simply watch the game progress.

Again, I am sorry it happened, and I don't expect forgiveness, but at least know this wasn't intentional, or that my character Gaetan is heartless and not angry or enraged about it.

[Vladimir]

How do I modify my username subtitle? I'd like to modify Gontran's name.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I'm sorry for not posting in this thread earlier, but I might as well state it now - I did not intentionally kill CDF's character, and I felt so bad that his had died and mine had not. As such, I feel I must withdraw from KotF due to this, and will at most simply watch the game progress.

Again, I am sorry it happened, and I don't expect forgiveness, but at least know this wasn't intentional, or that my character Gaetan is heartless and not angry or enraged about it.

No reason to feel bad about it. Things like that simply happen sometimes. I don't think you should have to withdraw due to an accident like that. Don't feel bad on my account.



I am not sure what I am personally going to do, might see what avatars head my way and see if I feel a story behind any of them. If I don't feel any of them I may just take a break. we will see.

[ULC]

No reason to feel bad about it. Things like that simply happen sometimes. I don't think you should have to withdraw due to an accident like that. Don't feel bad on my account.



I am not sure what I am personally going to do, might see what avatars head my way and see if I feel a story behind any of them. If I don't feel any of them I may just take a break. we will see.

I feel bad because that would not have happened to any other player. I'm not Ramses, I'm not Overknight, I'm not half the player anyone else here is. I can't rout an enemy with twigs for spears, berries for bolts, and a kitten squeak to frighten away the enemy. As such I shouldn't be playing, not least with anyone else in tow.

You died because I am an incompetent player.

[Vladimir]

Oh stop it! This is a game. He'll find another set of zeros and ones to play with. He's a creative guy.

Frankly, I'm surprised this is the first and I'm glad it happened. It adds some realism to the game. How many computer generals have fallen?

[ULC]

Oh stop it! This is a game. He'll find another set of zeros and ones to play with. He's a creative guy.

Frankly, I'm surprised this is the first and I'm glad it happened. It adds some realism to the game. How many computer generals have fallen?

Well, I'm so glad someone can find something positive out of this! Regardless of realism, CDF character died under my watch, and that is rather unfair to CDF.

[Ramses II CP]

Don't take Louis' speech the wrong way, which is to say the OOC way, take it as a man who lost his friend under a new, untested vassal's command. He's upset and finding a way to deal with it that doesn't involve violence. If I have time to post tonight he'll be drunk at the bar later, might be a good time to tell him the tale IC.

[ULC]

Don't take Louis' speech the wrong way, which is to say the OOC way, take it as a man who lost his friend under a new, untested vassal's command. He's upset and finding a way to deal with it that doesn't involve violence. If I have time to post tonight he'll be drunk at the bar later, might be a good time to tell him the tale IC.

Oh, it wasn't your speech that did me in, it was having to upload the save, and then tell everyone IC about it but not say anything OOC.

I also do not feel good about the battle - I used the "wheat field path" trick.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I'm not sure how "gamey" you think it is, but it was my key to victory.

[Vladimir]

No, that's smart. You used terrain to your advantage and just showed me, at least, a new trick.

[KnightnDay]

YLC, I won't speak to your competency, but on one hand I just finished a bridge battle and landed a heroic victory. On the other hand, I am playing a current solo game as Russia and am on turn 66.

I have 9 generals who have died in battle.

So am I highly competent as a result of the heroic bridge battle or incompetent because in my solo game I am losing a general at the rate of 1 every 7 turns?

Thing is, although these general's bodyguards are uber-units, they can still get killed easier than you think, especially as the AI will try and target them just as we go for the AI's.

If you think you don't play the game well, there is no lack of people here willing to help you get good at it.

You are welcome to PM me any time and we can go over what you think you don't do well, and make you better.

Nobody is expected to feel good about losing someone elses avatar in battle, but I do think we all understand it may happen, and as long as it isn't a malicious act, there shouldn't be any hard feelings over it.

My $.02

[ULC]

It's a tactic I used as the English - if you look in the lower corner, there is the basic wooden walls instead of the stone ones - go for those if you can, especially when they are in a "Y" structure.

This way, you can keep one unit of Billmen (no need for spears, although swords are okay) at each entrance, one behind for back up, and 3 units of Longbowmen at the center, allowing extra concentrated fire.

Should be completely impenetrable to cavalry (able to hold off 10 times their number per entrance), and most infantry short of Elite units will exhaust themselves trying to get to your reserves. Couple with Turcopoles to harass, charge the exposed rear of infantry attacking your Billmen, and mop up once done. The only caveat is that if your surrounded and your men break - your not going to have any survivors.

Because it's so effective, I feel one might consider it "gamey".

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I would not worry about it, frankly I would never be able to pull off what Ramses and some of the other guys here can. Generals are going to die during this game, at least I go down into history as the first one in KotF's to be killed in battle.

Really stick around, the plot potential of this is way to big to waste.


Not sure what else can be said about it.

[Vladimir]

Oh yes, I also went to the Renn Fair today. I'm all fueled up on turkey legs, shellfish, and wine. Looking to play some more when I wake up.

[Cecil XIX]

I feel bad because that would not have happened to any other player. I'm not Ramses, I'm not Overknight, I'm not half the player anyone else here is. I can't rout an enemy with twigs for spears, berries for bolts, and a kitten squeak to frighten away the enemy. As such I shouldn't be playing, not least with anyone else in tow.

You died because I am an incompetent player.

YLC, there's been many a time when I've felt exactly the same. I can guarentee you that you're at least 1.0 teh player I am, and that people at our skill level have a place in this game.

[Ituralde]

Worst move ever!

Where did they get Feudal Knights and Dismounted Foot Knights from?!?

In the interest of full disclosure, I only saw the exact makeup once the Order Knights had made contact. Knowing that in order to beat that army I would have to make the best use out of my bodyguards, but I knew I'm no good with those advanced horse tactics you guys are applying. So I thought I'd rather wait, maybe I'll get some mercs, maybe I don't, but at least I'll have time to improve my cavalry skills before the next turn!

[Vladimir]

Well, hopefully we'll have peace with a reconciled England.

[AussieGiant]

I'm more than happy we have had a death, not because Cultured Drizzt fan is dead but because a level of realism has been introduced into the game that has previously been sadly lacking.

As much as Tristan, Ramses and OK have been our active general's, it's not realistic to expect these three players to always fight our nations battles. In fact the more it is dispersed from now on the better for the overall game.

Defeat, struggle, achievement and collaboration are far more satisfying that total world domination like a Borg army crossing Europe.

YLC, you have nothing to be sorry for, and I'm and certainly very very impressed with Cultured Drizzt fan's response.

I hope these principle remain in our player base. If I were Cultured Drizzt fan, I'd take our beloved Prince as a nice move for his next avatar. There will be a wait but it is certainly going to be fun being born into this family.

[OverKnight]

Is anyone picking up on the subtle hints that Hugues won't be running for a second term?

Edit: Nothing personal towards Simon, Ituralde, the request was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

... If I were Cultured Drizzt fan, I'd take our beloved Prince as a nice move for his next avatar. There will be a wait but it is certainly going to be fun being born into this family.

He should take in line. Elite Ferret wanted to join KotF and Charles was promised to him.(that was when I was gone). Then, he never posted again in here and I got my life back in order so I decided to join KotF again. Zim promised to contact EF about the issue with Charles(whether he takes Charles or I can continue playing him). Anyway, I'm still waiting what EF and Zim have decided.

If CDf wants Charles as well then I challenge him in a duel!

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I hope these principle remain in our player base. If I were Cultured Drizzt fan, I'd take our beloved Prince as a nice move for his next avatar. There will be a wait but it is certainly going to be fun being born into this family.

I think Ibn is taking the other prince, so I will probably just take a RBG.


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[Ituralde]

Is anyone picking up on the subtle hints that Hugues won't be running for a second term?

Edit: Nothing personal towards Simon, Ituralde, the request was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

No problem, even if it was something personal towards Simon, as long as we're good. Looks like riding alongside the almighty King can make you a little too confident!

[Ramses II CP]

As an OOC FYI Pamplona, Bordeaux, and Valencia were all occupied as far as I know, but Louis wasn't a part of those battles and didn't make the decisions. The prisoners from the battle were executed because Louis was angry and, well, his impulse control is hardly legendary, eh? You'll note he both seconded and voted for the edict that was violated, I just didn't think it was realistic for him to observe it.

I wasn't going out of my way to point it out this time (As I did when he rode to Bordeaux) but I'm glad someone noticed.

I'm very short on time today and probably all week, will try to do some IC stuff tonight and see if I can finish the two battle stories I'm behind on.

[AussieGiant]

Fair enough.

Cultured Drizzt fan seems content with another RBG.

[flyd]

Is anyone picking up on the subtle hints that Hugues won't be running for a second term?

You made the third-best well-known blunder: never, ever run for Seneschal.

[Ituralde]

I apologize Northnovas, I tried to take care of all avatars, but I knew that I had to use them to win this battle. I'm still trying to figure out when exactly he died, as his bodyguard didn't take that many casualties. To be honest I was quite surprised to see the 'Noble Death popup' after the battle. I will work it into the Battle Report and make it look a worthwile death at least. I'll send you a copy before posting it, if you have any suggestions or additions just PM me.

Sorry once again,

Ituralde