KOTF OOC Thread

**Ignoramus** · 08-08-2009, 07:47

Fat!

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 08-08-2009, 08:03

Could someone please tell me why Marseille belongs to HRE in Lands to Conquer?

**The Lemongate** · 08-08-2009, 08:27

Wikipedia says this: A war between Rudolph III of Burgundy and his rival, the German Emperor Conrad the Salic in 1032 led to Provence becoming a fiefdom of the Holy Roman Empire, which it remained until 1246.

In fact, before Philippe Auguste II de France, there is no such thing as France, both as a concept or as a political entity. The Kingdom of the Franks is a powerful feudal entity whose power-base is mainly in the north and whose influence waxes and wanes depending on the strength of its ruler, much like the Holy Roman Empire, albeit with a different form of political structure.

**Cecil XIX** · 08-08-2009, 08:31

Another, related reason might be that it was like that in the first Medieval: Total War, as well. I miss you Aragon.

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 08-08-2009, 08:37

Wow.. I didn't know that!

**OverKnight** · 08-08-2009, 08:52

Originally Posted by The Lemongate

In fact, before Philippe Auguste II de France, there is no such thing as France, both as a concept or as a political entity. The Kingdom of the Franks is a powerful feudal entity whose power-base is mainly in the north and whose influence waxes and wanes depending on the strength of its ruler, much like the Holy Roman Empire, albeit with a different form of political structure.

Having played EU III recently, France is a patchwork of Duchies and Kingdoms at game start. And that's 1399.

But I'm willing to embrace anachronisms to make KotF fun.

**Ramses II CP** · 08-08-2009, 14:27

Originally Posted by Ignoramus

Fat!

Troublemaker!

Hope you don't feel picked on, Louis has just been waiting for someone to slip up and give him a chance to go on the offensive. He almost unleashed on Bertin, but you drew more attention.