KOTF OOC Thread

[_Tristan_]

I would suggest making use of our knowledge gained by trading map information/trade rights with foreign factions. It would make sense both Ic and OOC to gain knowledge of what resources are available in said faction through diplomatic /trade exchanges. And requiring trade rights would also mean that our merchants have been granted a patent to trade in said factions.

Ie, if we have established diplomatic relationships with Byzantium, I'd be allowing trade of resources within their territory.

It is difficult to "not know" where the resources are in game as we're all veteran players but by creating the necessity for an established link, we somewhat limit ourselves...

So until we've conquered Egypt and the Moors, there should be no trading of the goods that bring so much cash (ivory, slaves, sugar...) as I think all diplomacy with them was forbidden (though that may not have been re-enacted this term).

[econ21]

I agree with Tristan that the fog of war in the game is too restrictive. I would make full use of your knowledge of trade spots.

I am not sure trading with Muslims counts as conducting diplomacy (as at some level it might be private, as opposed to official, trading) but that's the kind of thing that can be debated IC.

[Ituralde]

In KotR one of my characters actively supported trade and even pushed for a trade delegation to be send towards North Africa via ship. I think that most Europeans were aware that great riches lie in foreign trade. At the same time it was very dangerous to conduct, which really isn't modeled very well in M2:TW. Still the general knowledge, or at least an inkling that riches might be found could be enough to send Merchants abroad. For the rest of it, we should deal with it IC. Especially trading with slaves should be interesting.


Edit: Just saw the matter of Frankfurt. It comes from the word ford and is acutally quite a common German city name. If there's a rive and a ford and the Franks crossed it at some point. Well there you have it.

[_Tristan_]

"Bon messieurs, I say that the city of Frankfurt be renamed Passéaux, as there are is no water near the city. While not so grand as a Fort, it may perhaps help the populace be reconciled to the return of their city to our rule.

In fact, the city is built on the Main, a large river... hence its name (as pointed out by Ituralde, I've just seen)

[OverKnight]

Franc-gué?

Ah screw it, let's just call it Philippi or something.

[Braden]

Merchants – I also say we use our extensive OOC knowledge to get the best return from them, limiting ourselves to those factions we have (or have had) trade agreements with.

Frankfurt – personally, renaming it might get confusing and I don’t think its significant a win to be renamed. When we do rename a city, it needs to be big…you know, like renaming Antioch or Jerusalem in honour of the King.

[econ21]

I don't like the idea of Prince Charles being unclaimed for a long period, so I've taken the liberty of put an ad in the M2TW forum in the hope of recruiting a player willing to pick him up.