KOTF OOC Thread

**KnightnDay** · 10-02-2009, 22:10

Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng

For the sake of those who do not have immediate access to the save, could we make it an OOC rule that anybody that makes action upon the save posts a brief summary of his actions when posting the save back...

It would make things easier to those that access the save afterwards, knowing what was done before...

[EDIT] : And that means me as well...

If you see lack of comments from me, it means Thomas marched halfway to nowhere particular and back again to keep from being ignorant.

If that even helps.

**econ21** · 10-02-2009, 23:31

While we are discussing OOC rules, could we make it a convention not to use the quote function to dissect your opponent's arguments line by line when debating in character? I find it very immersion breaking - it's like reading an internet debate rather than participating in a medieval council. There's also a risk in encourges internet style point-scoring and picking on tangential indiscretions rather than laying out a full case or refuting the main thrust of your opponent. It can make the discussion look rather fragmented - especially when several posts have elapsed since what you are quoting and the debate may have moved on. I realise there is a problem that we are not on line at the same time, so it is hard to simulate real life cut and thrust but there are more elegant ways of doing it. For example, just paraphrase the opponents' argument or even quote it in text without using the quote function.

So, basically, I recommend we avoid an IC post using the quote function like this:

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Originally Posted by The King

Sausages are nice

Indubitably, His Majesty has a good point.

Originally Posted by The King

German sausages are the best.

There, your Majesty, you veer periously close to treason!

Originally Posted by The King

Crumbs, I need the bathroom!

Quod erat demonstratum.

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Instead, trying something like:

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On the matter of His Majesty's culinary predisposition towards sausages, he is quite to be commended. However, I fear he may be going too far in professing a speech regard for the Teuton varieties. I wish His Majesty well on his journey.

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I raise this now because IIRC no one has used quotes excessively in the Conseil recently, so it won't appear I am picking on anyone.

I do think the quote function is useful for representing written text in IC speech - for example, if you are reading an edict or a letter. As presumably, a transcript of Conseil debates are kept, it might on occasion be legitimate to use the quote function to clinically dissect a controversial statement. But at one point, it was starting to happen a little too often for my taste.

**Ramses II CP** · 10-02-2009, 23:43

On econ's request, I try to always spoiler out anything I feel the need to respond to IC exactly, that way the flow of my statements can be read without break, but if they don't make sense you have a reference under the spoiler tag.

**Vladimir** · 10-03-2009, 01:11

Econ, thanks for reminding me I haven't been to the Renaissance festival yet this year.

Maryland has one of the best. Time's running out!

**OverKnight** · 10-03-2009, 08:03

In regard to Philippe's push for an immediate Crusade I'm going to respond here now and in the Conseil a bit later.

The calling for the Crusade is where IC and OOC issues gets muddled together. I realize that in an absolute monarchy the King could call the Crusade and set off whenever he wanted. However as the person currently running the game, I've got an Edict with very specific parameters.

Now the King has the right to declare war whenever he wishes and campaign as he sees fit, but calling the Crusade and having eligible armies join it (8 or more units) is in the Seneschal's domain. Therefore, the Crusade will not be called until the conditions of the Edict have been met or I have a concensus on how to go forward from those involved.

As for using a Crusade on the Moors or Germans, again I have a passed Edict for a Crusade on England. If two Ducs or just the King feel strongly enough and want to change this, they can call for an Emergency Session to alter what has already been agreed upon. Hugues himself will not be pursuing this option.

This all might ruffle some feathers, but I am proceeding as best I can given the current edicts and game conditions.

**Braden** · 10-03-2009, 09:05

OK that sounds spot on to me.

**OverKnight** · 10-03-2009, 10:01

To see how drunk Hugues should be with his little drinking game, I just checked how many times the word "Crusade" was used between his last and second to last post. It turns out it was 28, not including "Crusader" or "crusading". He then of course said it 4 - 5 times himself.

I fear his liver might not survive the term.

Also I second Tristan's request to have each person who takes the save post a summary of what they did. I find it very helpful as Seneschal.

**AussieGiant** · 10-03-2009, 10:02

Stick it to em OK

@Econ, good point. I've never done it but it is certainly worth stating now.

I can see council sessions getting even more entertaining with the two characters we have in the King and heir.

Good work Tristan and Ramses