Best 'small Successor'?

[madbriton]

I'm looking to start a new campaign with one of the successor states, but hate starting with big empires, so not AS or Ptols. Which do you all think is the best (and most fun) to play?

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

I love Makedons unit roster. Very high quality units. Playing as Epieros would be fun although there is more of a dependency on levies early on I would think due to proximity to Illyria. Both also have the choice of expanding east or west, or both. Baktria looks like fun, but, I've had enough of dealing with endless waves of Pahlav and Saka family members for the time after playing AS. I would go with either Makedon or Epieros.

[Ghaust the Moor]

I vote armenia because they are more a very capable race for various styls of expansion.

[vartan]

I vote Hayasdan because they are more a very capable race for various styls of expansion.

[J.R.M]

Bactria.

Pretty good challenge with those Seleukids, Sakas and Phalav.
Good unit roster.
Good economy later on.

Weel second to me would be those Makedons, They have acces to Thracian units, they have their good phalanxes, good cavalry. that´s all i can think about for now. Hope you enjoy EB. Seeya.

[Conqueror]

Pontos if you want an insane challenge

Although it's not an actual diadochi faction, it can field similar armies.

[Maion Maroneios]

I'm looking to start a new campaign with one of the successor states, but hate starting with big empires, so not AS or Ptols. Which do you all think is the best (and most fun) to play?

I say you go for Makedonia if you're not very experienced with phalanx-based factions. They have lots of potential, hold a strategic position on the map and have excellent troops to choose from. You just have to outlast Epeiros and crush the Koinon Hellenon at the beginning and after that, the possibilities of expansion are endless.

And guys, Hayasdan isn't a Successor Kingdom.

Maion

[madbriton]

I'll allow Hayasdan and KH if you like

[Maion Maroneios]

OK. Even so, I still keep my initial suggestion. For the same reasons aforementioned.

Maion

[Rahwana]

Baktria, although it was the campaign that I play now. Well, great unit rooster and good bodyguard in the late game

[Tyrfingr]

Pontos, every day in the weak!

[Bucefalo]

I say Pontos too

[vartan]

My favorite successor is Makedonia. They're hella fun to play!

[option]

Epeiros. Pontos would be more fun if their roster wasn't garbage, but most of it is. Hayasdan is cool too, but hard given that you start right next to the AS heartland.

[Irishmafia2020]

Epiros or Makedonia are great if you want a Mediterranean based campaign, as is KH. Bactria I highly recommend if you want something... different.

[Julius Augustus]

All hail Makedonia! Makedonia is a great faction to do. They have a challenging starting position, but if you make it through the start, you have great possibilities. Makedonia has sweet elites(Peltastai Makedonike, Hypaspistai), sweet waaaarg choppa troops(Basternae, Agrianikoi Pelekuphoroi, Thrakioi Peltastai), sweet phalanxes(Argyraspides, Hysteroi Pezhetairoi), sweet heavy cav(Hetairoi, Hippeis Thessalikoi), and sweet Greek units(Hoplitai, etc.). You can pwn those annoyinng Spartans, burn the Acropolis of Athens, kill elephants, restore Alexandros's body to it's right resting place, and get awesome allied armies of Thracian romphaias. But that's not the best part. No, the best part is being able to send the dog-sucking Romani filth to their ancestors. Sacking Roma 5 times. Burning down every destroyable building. Each time. Watching as the flames rise. Then leaving and coming back 20 years later with a full stack of Basternae when Roma is rebuilt. There is no sweeter sight than that of a falx slicing through the fancy armour of the Roman legions, watching as those bast**** fall to their deaths from the walls. Watching with joy the slaughter of thousands of pathetic Barbaroi, as all of their fancy armor does not protect them from the falxes of the Basternae. Watching as unarmored troops kick the ***es of well armored Romans. Watching as their arms are cleaved from their bodies. And then sacking Roma again. That is the best part of any Makedonia campaign. All hail Makedonia!

[Constantius III]

I'd recommend playing the Maks rather than Baktria. Baktria's got an awesome unit roster, the enemies you face are pretty varied, and they start out with great expansion prospects. But any war with the Saka or AS can just get exhausting after awhile, IMHO. Makedonia, on the other hand, starts out exciting with the whole "crisis of 272" thing, pretty fun way to open a campaign, and they stay interesting because you can drive into Anatolia and Italy, where the enemies are different and not pushovers but at the same time you don't have to fight exhausting HA battles or the full brunt of the Gray Death. And there's always the route north, too.

[Maion Maroneios]

All hail Makedonia! Makedonia is a great faction to do. They have a challenging starting position, but if you make it through the start, you have great possibilities. Makedonia has sweet elites(Peltastai Makedonike, Hypaspistai), sweet waaaarg choppa troops(Basternae, Agrianikoi Pelekuphoroi, Thrakioi Peltastai), sweet phalanxes(Argyraspides, Hysteroi Pezhetairoi), sweet heavy cav(Hetairoi, Hippeis Thessalikoi), and sweet Greek units(Hoplitai, etc.). You can pwn those annoyinng Spartans, burn the Acropolis of Athens, kill elephants, restore Alexandros's body to it's right resting place, and get awesome allied armies of Thracian romphaias. But that's not the best part. No, the best part is being able to send the dog-sucking Romani filth to their ancestors. Sacking Roma 5 times. Burning down every destroyable building. Each time. Watching as the flames rise. Then leaving and coming back 20 years later with a full stack of Basternae when Roma is rebuilt. There is no sweeter sight than that of a falx slicing through the fancy armour of the Roman legions, watching as those bast**** fall to their deaths from the walls. Watching with joy the slaughter of thousands of pathetic Barbaroi, as all of their fancy armor does not protect them from the falxes of the Basternae. Watching as unarmored troops kick the ***es of well armored Romans. Watching as their arms are cleaved from their bodies. And then sacking Roma again. That is the best part of any Makedonia campaign. All hail Makedonia!

Well, well if it 'aint another Romaioktonos in heart. Why don't you click on my signature and join out noble Group?

Maion

[/Bean\]

Thats the entrance exam? All people have to do is write All Hail Makedonia in rather obnoxiously large text and they can enter your Group?

*Snipe sarcastic remark about modern politics goes here*

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Well, since you ruled out AS and AP, there's only one successor left and that's Makedonia.

[Azathoth]

All hail Makedonia! Makedonia is a great faction to do. They have a challenging starting position, but if you make it through the start, you have great possibilities. Makedonia has sweet elites(Peltastai Makedonike, Hypaspistai), sweet waaaarg choppa troops(Basternae, Agrianikoi Pelekuphoroi, Thrakioi Peltastai), sweet phalanxes(Argyraspides, Hysteroi Pezhetairoi), sweet heavy cav(Hetairoi, Hippeis Thessalikoi), and sweet Greek units(Hoplitai, etc.). You can pwn those annoyinng Spartans, burn the Acropolis of Athens, kill elephants, restore Alexandros's body to it's right resting place, and get awesome allied armies of Thracian romphaias. But that's not the best part. No, the best part is being able to send the dog-sucking Romani filth to their ancestors. Sacking Roma 5 times. Burning down every destroyable building. Each time. Watching as the flames rise. Then leaving and coming back 20 years later with a full stack of Basternae when Roma is rebuilt. There is no sweeter sight than that of a falx slicing through the fancy armour of the Roman legions, watching as those bast**** fall to their deaths from the walls. Watching with joy the slaughter of thousands of pathetic Barbaroi, as all of their fancy armor does not protect them from the falxes of the Basternae. Watching as unarmored troops kick the ***es of well armored Romans. Watching as their arms are cleaved from their bodies. And then sacking Roma again. That is the best part of any Makedonia campaign. All hail Makedonia!

O hai Satalexton, howz it going?

[Julius Augustus]

Welcome to the forum Azathoth.

[Aemilius Paulus]

I would say Baktria, and Eperios, even though it is not exactly a successor state. Close enough however. It is Hellenic and it was highly influenced by Alexander, as Pyrrhus served as a bodyguard of one of Megas Alexandros' generals.

And yes, welcome to the forums Azathoth

[antisocialmunky]

Baktria.

[Azathoth]

I mean, thank you!

[satalexton]

O hai Satalexton, howz it going?

Assert our rightous freedom!
Lores of heroic deeds,
Long live our Basileus!

O Fatherland of Glory,
Vergina sun shines bright!
Sons of Alexandros,
All Hail Makedonia!!!

High above on Olympus,
Almighty Zeus guides on!
Immortal beacons of Truth,
Lucid as the sea!

O Fatherland of Glory,
Vergina sun shines bright!
Sons of Alexandros,
All Hail Makedonia!!!

March our brave Hetairos,
Arche of Truth and Hope.
King of Kings All Gaia,
East to West he reigns.
Dominion upon barbaroi,
Our Basileus pushes on!
Never will he be overthrown,
Invincible his Agema.
All Hail Makedonia!

O Fatherland of Glory,
Vergina sun shines bright!
Sons of Alexandros,
All Hail Makedonia!!!

[Cute Wolf]

Definitely not Makedonia in the sense of War with Romani.... Epeiros kick Roman ass first and foremost!!! but Pyrrhos still claims the title of Basileus of Makedonia....

Well, just want to said all hail Makedonia!!! , but they wasn't the best "Small sucessors" since they are allready "big"

*) instant capture of Athenai, kicking Spartans, and start reclaimin Pella isn't a definition worth of "small sucessor"....

Makedonia is a "Medium Sucessor"


So the best "small sucessor" in my mind is Baktria!!! they had 1 prov to start, and get a lot of tough time evading the Grey death, while beating Pahlavans and Saka...

[mountaingoat]

play as saroumate

[Dutchhoplite]

Baktria, Epeiros, Pontos, Hayasdan successor states??

[Reality=Chaos]

Baktria could possibly be termed as such.... The others are certainly not in the sense of Diadochoi... but they are in the sense that they are in competition state. The pahlava and the Hay (and maybe pontos) could be termed as succesors of the persian empire....

edit: hey dutchhoplite... are you actually dutch.... Cause I am....