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    Ahem. In keeping with econ's spirit of just popping in as if we'd never been gone, I'd like to give you all the opportunity to pester me for coats of arms again, if you would like them.

    For those of you who I've played with in LotR and to a lesser extent KotR, it should all be business as usual: throw your crazy ideas my way and I shall try to make you happy

    For those of you who are new, I like designing coats of arms for the various factions and/or individuals in these games. Doing so is mostly a sticking together of already existing parts of coats of arms, changing a few colours around, pretending I did a lot of work and having a reasonably large and completely disorganised thread. For an idea of how it worked (well...mostly worked) in LotR have a look at this thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=104139

    Now to get your inspirations up, I would suggest the following links:

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca...raldic_figures (and its subcategories)

    and especially: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca..._arms_elements

    Basically, images in .SVG format are easiest to work with and edit. Other things are possible, and I'm happy for you to throw whatever you want at me, but I make no promises.

    Now for our very first KotF Coat of Arms:

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    The idea is the larger one can be used wherever, and the smaller can go in your signature. So fire away if you want.

    At the risk of cluttering this up already, I've come up with some templates:

    First of all, here are the historic Arms for our four Houses and the royal family. I quite like these actually, they are nice and varied.

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    Capetins


    Burgundy


    Brittany


    Aquitaine


    Lorraine


    I suppose the best way of combining these with something more personal would be to use them as a subshield, ie:





    As for ranks, pretty much as below (ignore the different sizes for now):

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    King


    Heir


    Prince


    Duke


    Count


    Baron


    Knight




    Finally, for some basic shapes, just because most of our stuff has been geometrically similar so far:

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    Welcome back, deguerra!

    When I found out you were returning I began to feel a little of what AG has been feeling with the return of the rest of the prominent original KOTR guys, like the whole gang is back.
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    A big thank you deguerra for your wonderful work on my coat of arm!
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    I love this!!!

    Deg your the single most impact immersion practitioner we have!!

    I'll ask when have a character confirmed.

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    Hi Deguerra, I was hoping you would appear.

    I infer you will be taking an avatar? If so, please sign up:

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    Deguerra is thinking of taking an avatar last I heard. Hopefully we can convince him...
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    Hey, deguerra... Nice to see you back...

    We missed you in the endgame...
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    Hey deguerra, can you make a small alteration to the ducal crown in my coat of arms? Can you make the blue gemstones white?

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    Hi Deguerra,

    I've found some useful stuff and I would like you to consisder having a go at making the heraldry for my character seeing as you have a talent for it if you please.
    I now serve the Duchy of Bretagne and The Order of the Fleur de Lys.
    These are some useful sources:
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    A quick google gives me this.
    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    So that its subjects will view it with admiration, as a chicken which has the daring and courage to boldly cross the road,
    but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of avian virtue? In such a manner is the princely
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    mkay.

    to start off very simply.

    Rowan:

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    Others will be executed in order of posting.

    edit: whoops and Ituralde:

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    Quote Originally Posted by woad&fangs View Post
    A quick google gives me this.
    hah, perfect already.
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    I was bored:

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    Wow..

    Perhaps you could add all those to your first post and add names under those shields?

    Anyway, you've done amazing job!!

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    Could you post mine in the smaller size please.
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    Alexandre Le Sueur
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    Deguerra's last post contains all the shields in small size.
    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    So that its subjects will view it with admiration, as a chicken which has the daring and courage to boldly cross the road,
    but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of avian virtue? In such a manner is the princely
    chicken's dominion maintained. ~Machiavelli

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    Hey deg, can you do me favor and give me a version of Burgundy's CoA where the largest dimension is 200 pixels?

    Also, is it my imagination or does Raoul of all people not have a CoA?

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    I'll see what I can do on that burgundy arms. My coat of arms should be visible in my signature, is it not?

    should be this:

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    Your CoA is visible in the sig, at least to me.
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    good to know. thanks OK
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    a few things:

    - can I interest the new baron(s) in an update of their CoAs with the barons' crown as seen in my first post? You need to differentiate yourself from the dirty masses, n'est-ce pas?

    - Braden, Henri clearly needs a coat of arms!

    - Cecil, sorry, getting onto that Burgundy resizing now.

    edit: think this should do it Cecil:

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    edit2: ok, here's one more attempt to reel knightnday into the coat of arms family :P :

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    Now that Gontran is a baron should we change his coat of arms?


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    Hey Vlad. Will get onto counting and baroning today sometime.

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    Deg, you're awesome. Thanks for helping keep this tradition alive.


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    Vlad, you haven't changed your signature yet. Don't leave me hanging!

    It's come to my attention that TinCows character is a Baron, so here is his updated Arms.

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    Also, I've been fearlessly putting myself in the firing line for the betterment of humanity and testing new things on me so that all may benefit. As such, and I'm sure you've noticed, I've given myself a second arms to correspond to my land holdings (Bern). If anyone wants this done, speak up.

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    Odd, I thought I did. Fixed now.


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
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    deg a review of my CoA’s is in order.

    Henri is now a Baron of the Duchy of Lorraine with ownership of Metz.

    Fire away! I’m not sure how these additions can be added.
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    Well Looks like I am going to need a new coat of arms to get me in the mood for my new avatar.

    The idea is along these lines.

    A Blue shield with red trim, with a Fleur de Lye at each corner. In the center of the shield is a pear, below it is a horizontal sword, and above it the lion of Aquitaine. if I could just see that.
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