bang for your buck

**m046720** · 07-10-2009, 14:53

What are some of the best bang for your buck units out there? i like to use flanking tactics and unit hiding, and with larger armies it is harder to hold the line while i am manuevering my flanking units without having the overall cost of my army sky-rocketing.

I guess i am looking for all kinds of "bang for buck" units also. not just troops of the line so to speak.

**ARCHIPPOS** · 07-10-2009, 15:24

Originally Posted by m046720

What are some of the best bang for your buck units out there? i like to use flanking tactics and unit hiding, and with larger armies it is harder to hold the line while i am manuevering my flanking units without having the overall cost of my army sky-rocketing.

I guess i am looking for all kinds of "bang for buck" units also. not just troops of the line so to speak.

which faction are you playing for???

**DaciaJC** · 07-10-2009, 16:08

Generally AP units will dish out a great deal of hurt, especially when attacking the flanks or rear. Axemen, falxmen (Getic Drapanai and mercenary Druhtiz Bastarnisku), Traikioi Rhomphaiaphoroi, and units with AP swords (falcata/kopis), like Pedites Extraordinarii and many Iberian units.

**satalexton** · 07-10-2009, 16:36

actually AP units are not the best 'bang for the buck' units. tho they are the economical choice when you cant afford real armour to go toe to toe with armoured enemies. Otherwise, compared to non-AP units of similar price/etc, they are not as good.

**Skoran** · 07-10-2009, 16:50

What is actually the best unit in the game? Dont look at the price or upkeep.

I mean: Who has highest attack, who has highest defence? Who has highest attack/defence ratio?

**option** · 07-10-2009, 16:59

Hypaspists would be my first notion for that. It seems like no matter how thick the fighting is or whether they're surrounded or isolated or anything, they never take more than a handful of casualties.

**DaciaJC** · 07-11-2009, 17:29

Originally Posted by satalexton

actually AP units are not the best 'bang for the buck' units. tho they are the economical choice when you cant afford real armour to go toe to toe with armoured enemies. Otherwise, compared to non-AP units of similar price/etc, they are not as good.

Pit a unit of Solduros against a unit of Hypaspistai and you will get a battle of attrition in which both sides incur substantial losses (custom battle test: 5 Solduros and 26 Hypaspistai survive after a ten-minute fight).

Replace the Solduros with Traikioi Rhomphaiaphoroi, however, and you end up with a quick fight in which the heavily armored Hypaspistai are slaughtered (custom battle test: 42 Rhomps. and 3 Hypaspistai survive after a 4-5 minute fight).

Yes, I realize that Rhomphaiaphoroi are the best in the world of AP. You can't put a unit of Teceitos against Hypaspistai and expect them to win. They won't. But they will against Classical Hoplites. At every level, there is an AP unit that can counter and beat non-AP opponents.

**vartan** · 07-11-2009, 18:10

Noob question: In game description, must it say Effective Against Armour to be considered AP or can a unit have AP even if description does not state Effective Against Armour?

EDIT: And if it must state so, then is that statement for the Primary weapon's AP attribute? (i.e. if secondary is AP but not primary weapon, then would it not state Effective Against Armour even though the secondary has AP?) Sorry if questions are unclear.