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    *Raynaud re-enters the Conseil, his eyes gleaming with holy fire.*

    Gentlemen, if anybody needs me, I will be prosecuting this holy and just war with the devilish Moors to the fullest extent imaginable. I submit my suggestion to the nobles here that a Crusade be called on the Moors instead of the English, now that they mean to destroy us and are actually a Muslim target. Anybody who wishes to join me is more than welcome to. There is much sword work to be done.

    He turns around, departing to leave, and then turns around again.

    And if any of you wish to stop me...

    I'll see you in Hell.

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    Hugues takes a sip of wine and murmurs:

    So glad you could join us, Chevalier. It is unfortunate we do not currently share a border with the Moors.

    He addresses Gaetan.

    Only one Crusade at a time, as I mentioned before it will be a long time between Crusades.
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    Heh... the House of Aquitaine is more than capable of handling the Moorish threat, so long as we are not starved of resources. We will secure the English lands in the area quickly, and use those as a base from which to defeat any armies the heathens send at us. Give us the men we need, and the rest of France can forget about the Moorish war altogether. You need not fear that Aquitaine will falter.


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    Gaetan cocks an eyebrow.

    "But why not declare a Crusade upon the Germans, Duc Hughes? I see no reason to put the English as either higher priority or as more deserving - for starters, we are not at war with the English yet, and all we would be doing is answering the call of the Pope yet once more."

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    Philippe looks at Gaetan.

    But that would require another Emergency Session, and while we lose time debating the merits of Crusading West, East or South, our enemies will gather their strength.

    The English Crusade has already been sanctioned by the Conseil so unless our Ducs deem it necessary to call another Session, we will follow the will of the Conseil. I will already march this season towards the crossing at Calais and any and all who wish to join will have to join me there.

    These unfortunate turn of events somewhat hurries our venture in English lands. Any laggards will be left behind...

    One last thing : the Crusade as voted by the Conseil requires that the target should be London, as we all thought we would find Guillaume in his capital city... But it seems that while we delayed, the felon heard of our wish to march against him and took up residence in Nottingham, a much better defensible position.

    Now, should we follow the letter of Edict E1.3 or should we follow its meaning and ask for the Crusade to be declared on Nottingham, Guillaume's hideout ?

    I respectfully ask our Senechal to make the necessary request to the Pope this very season so that we can march under the Cross this very year (OOC : OK, could you take the save and request the Crusade before the end of the turn, thus allowing some of us to take the Cross and do our Crusade moves this turn? We've already lost one turn waiting for the avatars to declare if they would join, I would not lose another...)

    I'll also ask him to coordinate our military actions by defining who will march south against the Moors, who will hodl the Eastern front and who will strike at England's heart, reclaiming our lost lands...
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    Gaetan looks at King Philippe questioningly.

    "How would that require another emergency session at all? Why not simply change our target? As you have suggested with the taking of Nottingham instead of London? If we are to abide by pure law, then we must take London - if we are to abide by the spirit of it, we must call an emergency session and then decide which, English or German, are in more need of saving. Matters of faith are not to be taken lightly."

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    When I say we should march on Nottingham rather than London, it is imply because this Crusade was always meant to bring Guillaume to justice and not just to capture any particular city... Hence my proposal that we follow the meaning of the Edict rather than its letter...

    I'm also surprised that if you request an Emergency Session, you of all people, do not request that it be called on any Moorish-held city... Where you not the one to advocate that we'd be using the Crusade to our own means rather than for the saving of English souls.. Surely if we chose to strike at the Mohammeddans, I thought it would find grace in your eyes...
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    Gaetan shrugs

    "So therefore, in your eyes, the German people are of less value to God then the English people, and that King William committed a more blasphemous act then Kaiser Karl, even though they essentially were excommunicated for the same thing."

    "If this crusade was about saving souls, as crusades are meant to be, then I don't think you'd take issue with declaring it upon the Holy Roman Empire, where the vast majority of our military commanders and assets are located near."

    "Instead, we would declare a Crusade upon King William, were we must gather men from the far reaches of the Royaume, and step outside of the wording of the law to go after one man, dragging us into a 4 front war - to the north from Albion, to the south from Cordoba, to the east from Pamplona and Bordeaux, and to the west from the Empire."

    "Whether or not I would argue for a Moorish Crusade seems irrelevant to this body - they seem far more interested in declaring war upon fellow Catholics, and so I thought I would hop on the bandwagon and ask the innocent question of "why not them?". Because it appears that your willing to admit this crusade is nothing more then a shame intent on grabbing land with Papal favor - or is it because your tired of having refer to Duke William as an equal?"
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