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    Hey I got the title right this time!

    Ahem, anyway, this is the thread for the second part of a game of politics in the 1980's. The first game, which can be found here, bombed due to the rules being too complex for me, lack of co-ordination between me and my writeup... er, guy and just general lazyness on my part. I cant do much about the latter because, well, I'm a lazy person, but, I am going to try to keep the other hampers of the last part of the game from repeating, or at least make sure that the game is fun.

    Firstly I dont want any new recruits, It took me two weeks to do the role pms for 15 countries and I dont want to go through that again, you can replace players that have quit or do quit in the future but thats about it. Secondly dont point out that I havent explained what this game is, this isnt a proper sequel and the players allready know how to play the game.

    Heres the recap from the timeskip:
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    October-December 1981: The Sino-Russian war rages on chinese advance into eastern russia is halted as most of the troops were sent to try to evict the russian invasion of the southern Chinese coast. The Chinese troops sent to attack Moscow arrive and a war of attrition is fought in its streets as the russians cut them off from the middle east supply depots.

    A british sleeper cell in moscow becomes active and detonates a 300KT bomb under the west wing of the kremlin. No-one was hurt and very little important was destroyed however as the entire facility had been evacuated to lenningrad when china attacked. The newly restored British army attacks the blockaded Russians. They take most of the western half of south africa and Russian and British squadrons engage around the Cape of Good Hope, each trying to cut off the others supply lines.

    Czechoslovakia and West germany surrenders to their respective former allies.
    The west german government is forcebly retired and the replacements are staunch NATO supporters only.
    Warsaw is more harsh in its punishment; the czechoslovakian politicians are executed and half of its land and civillians are absorbed into the neigbouring countries.

    Result: Sino-Russian war is stagnating and the British are slowly pushing the Russians out of South africa. Czechoslovakia has been castrated and the occuping NATO forces are still sitting in West Germany.

    1982:

    Chinese take moscow in May and turn it into a Fortress; Mines, hidden anti-tank troops, machine gun turrets etc are deployed. Russians in response sit their armies outside the city and make fake attacks and slowly trick the besiged chinese into wasting most of the ammunition. Chinese forces try multiple times to raid the russian countryside for food and russian depots for ammo and fuel but are dismayed as the russians have harvested and burned nearby farms and that any russian ordinance they find are unuseable with Chinese firearms. When the Russians truely attack in November they find that a quarter of the army has starved and over three quarters of the remainders had allready fled the city into the countryside some time ago mainly during the attempted farm raids.

    Iran and Pakistan after being Embargo'd along with the rest of the NAP by russia joins in the war on china's side in Febuary and they kick the Russians out of southern china freeing the remaining Chinese to start the northern offensive anew. The war in South Africa ended after the Russians withdraw their troops to help fend off the new combatants and Britain reclaimed the country. Just like history the Argentinians invaded the falkland islands in April 1982 and like history the were driven off. Unlike history however an allready enraged Britain decided to send the Argentinian sea trade back 3 Millennia by bombing and shelling every port in the Argentinan coast. They did such a thorough job that the american astronauts said they were able to see the craters from space.


    1983:

    At the start of the year Iran, Pakistan and China renewed the northern war and pushed the Russian forces further back to the point that mongolia was completely encircled by the Chinese. The anti MEC, now Anti NAP, were brought into the war in May by promises of high grade weapons from russia and the middle eastern war restarted with the Egyptian, Arabian and Syrian armies moving into the lands previously occupied by the chinese troops sent to moscow. This act forced Iran and Pakistan to withdraw from China removing their numerical advantage and moving the Northern line back south.

    After America threatened that they would join in on the side of China if they resisted, Russia was forced to withdraw all claims on east germany and let it rejoin with the West to form a Central Germany under NATO's jurisdiction. It is unknown if it the Warsaw pact will accept it in the long run but as the Americans were quick to point out; "those Russian sucker's cant do a thing about it".

    1984:

    A deadly chapter in the Sino-Russian war started. The United kingdom invaded the Russian controled Sakhalin island opening a third front. Due to Russia allready being overstretched as it is warsaw was called into the war and polish, hungarian romanian and the small amount of czechoslovakian troops were deployed to the front lines and entered a war of attrition as warsaw and the Royal navy battled over the arctic islands with many ships and troops on both sides being lost to not only the enemy but the cold.

    1985: There have been many powers over the years. Many have risen many have fallen but few have ever made the effort to become a superpower. In the last 5 years the power that is known as india has made such an effort and has now risen to be the 5th World Superpower its economy had exploded and its industry had boomed its nuclear program has been sucessfull and it after 5 years of work it has become one of the big boys. Both the NAP and the Warsaw pact had weakened after 3 and 1/2 years of non stop violence and it has left them bloodied and destitute. Fighting a seemingly never ending standoff has taken its toll and when on 1985 India declared its demands that both sides will stand down and restore things to the status quo the war or be destroyed they had no choice but to count their blessings and declare a draw.

    The war between Warsaw and China's allies had ended. The United kingdom and the Middle east coalition, relatively unharmed by war in comparison to the others, were not perturbed by the threats of the subcontinent and only declared peace after India forced the Chinese to restore the lands taken in the Middle east and the Russians to surrender Sahkalin, Severny and Yuzhny Islands to the Royal Navy. Seeing the British takeover of stratiegic posictions in the arctic the Americans offered Britain its old position in Nato in exchange for the permission to position Air and Naval bases on them. Seeing as the USSR would most likely try to destroy the United kingdom if they didnt have a powerfull ally when Russia's strength was restored, Britain accepted the alliance.

    1986:

    The Eastern Continent starts to rebuild from the war.
    Tibetian rebels, seeing the weakness in China's military, attempt a full on rebellion for Tibet's freedom but due to the entire continent being reluctant to start another war in Asia support is minimal. The rebelion stagnates as the Chinese are unable to find and kill all the rebels and the rebels have difficulty accumilating enough weaponry to do much damage.

    1987
    Russia and China both report a 50% resoration of thier country and Russia pettitions the UN to force the UK to return the Sahkalin Island, the pettition fails. The USA, being the only world wide superpower at full strength, demand the Chinese and Russians to surrender and send their nuclear arsenals to the USA. China and Russia take it badly.

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    Just kidding.



    In essence during the first half of the 1980's the World went to hell and back as russia and china each showed mankinds progess in killing the man next door without the use of nuclear arms.
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    I'm not sure its accurate and I've probably missed afew names or mislabled a country, anyway dont mae a fuss just tell me and I'll fix it.


    Main changes from the old game:
    1. We are dropping the whole economy system from the start, so no dicking around.
    2. I am actually going to be doing the writeups.
    3. If there is a mistake and we catch a mistake within 3 days I will correct it no matter the amount of work that needs modifying. Believe it or not but the Host isnt allways right.
    4. Change 3 wont be accepted as an excuse to moan about the mistakes of the last game.
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    Default Re: Cold war Cataclysm 1992 edition.

    Excellent, and thus a new era may begin!

    Also Greyblades, will our Role PM's be changing at all?
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    Could we have an updated list of who is who and if they are part of NATO/Warsaw/Non-aligned/Other ? Thank you.
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    I kind of lost track awhile ago.
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    From what I gather, NATO and Warsaw are both at Status quo (Czechoslovakia is rather messed up though), while India is it's own faction. The NAP is Pakistan, Iran, and China.

    Is Turkey a part of the MEC now? Somalia is back to anarchy.
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    Turkey went back into nato so it could use the position to get its land back from china.
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    ps: Wasn't Death is Yonder playing as Canada?
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    Sorry, I won't be playing as I'm a tad busy right now... And I'm already killing my self by playing Bleach Shippuden.
    If I'm lucky, I could start playing from 29th but if not, I won't be able to play till early November.


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    I'm glad this showed up as the top thread in the forum. I'm not a gameroom regular so I might have missed it a couple days otherwise.

    Nice to see India did ok during the timeskip, although they suddenly seem very alone...

    I saw a mention of my activity in the last game with two rather different perspectives mentioned. I turned in a lot of orders and did a fair amount of diplomacy outside the main thread (pms, etc.). I can see how to someone I didn't deal with directly India could have seemed to not be extremely active. I had invoked an ability from my role pm that made India much weaker in the short term, in exchange for a stronger position later on, which forced me to lay low when possible.

    Indian politics will be more active and open in this game, although I can only hope they're also more successful.
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    China is ready to go. i have been waiting for this for quite a while. i am sort of bored with Capo because of the unbelievable following and bandwaggoning on people who are townies so i can't wait for this.

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    *mmph*...

    *gestures wildly towards the "roadkill" playing at Canada"





    i am sort of bored with Capo because of the unbelievable following and bandwaggoning on people who are townies so i can't wait for this.
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    Man.....this game well be NATO vs everyone else...

    Too many human players with NATO

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    Germany offers a round of Bratwurst, Saurkraut and Beer for everyone. Feel free to eat it on the Autobahn.

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    I'm back in. I'm just wondering whether I could play Australia instead of Brazil.

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    If I could play Tunisia instead of Japan, I'll play.
    So I can accidentally miss a few orders and not get thumped for it.
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    Firstly I dont want any new recruits, It took me two weeks to do the role pms for 15 countries and I dont want to go through that again
    Not the exact answer to your requests, but... you get the idea

    Still... check with Greyblades/ wait for his reply, but I'm guessing the answer is in the negative

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death is yonder View Post
    Not the exact answer to your requests, but... you get the idea

    Still... check with Greyblades/ wait for his reply, but I'm guessing the answer is in the negative

    Good point.

    Some one can take over Japan then


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post



    ps: Wasn't Death is Yonder playing as Canada?
    Uh whoops I was using a older map so I could get the borders back to status quo and forgot about changeing roadkill to DIY .

    Oh and beefy unless you have plans to do something specific you can just tell me to put japan on auto pilot untill you think you can handle it. It'l do very little unless it or an ally is attacked though.
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    Just a couple of questions -

    Is India still part of the NAP?
    Could the 'NAP' be renamed to something else by its members?
    Did Spain join NATO after Franco's death and other similar real time-line events?
    Is the USSR still in existence or has it reformed into Russia and the CIS?
    etc

    Also, what is sort of funny, Germany re-united in the real time-line in this period as well.
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    No.
    Their problem.
    Yes.
    It's still the USSR.

    I know.
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    Nap is probably going to dissolve as it is China and uh china. Pakistan is not a player and neither is iran. NATO isn't overloaded with human players and i didn't lose my greatest ally in Britain or anything. So i better ont hear any stupid demands like i change the name of my defunct alliance. (BESKAR)

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    AVSM is pakistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    Nap is probably going to dissolve as it is China and uh china. Pakistan is not a player and neither is iran. NATO isn't overloaded with human players and i didn't lose my greatest ally in Britain or anything. So i better ont hear any stupid demands like i change the name of my defunct alliance. (BESKAR)
    AVSM is playing as Pakistan.

    I didn't do a demand, I made an idea suggestion. I was thinking you could personalise it more to your tastes and what you want. Aka, more you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Uh whoops I was using a older map so I could get the borders back to status quo and forgot about changeing roadkill to DIY .

    Oh and beefy unless you have plans to do something specific you can just tell me to put japan on auto pilot untill you think you can handle it. It'l do very little unless it or an ally is attacked though.
    Righteo, I'll do that.
    I might just send you a general direction of what I want Japan to do, and I'll let it go on auto pilot for the time being.


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    You have no Idea how psyched I am for this.
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    Are we sure AVSM is playing.

    Oh so now it is NAP 2 NATO 10

    Anyway it doesn't really matter, i just can't wait for this to start.

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    Yes, I'm playing.
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    Just checking, are countries with role pms whose players left before the end of the last game up for grabs by new or returning players? Like Indonesia, Cuba, Portugal, etc?
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    If this is streamlined, than I'm all in to try again.
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    Russia demands you send envoy's to it's Capital, it wishes to speak with others in person. Remember, if you skip out on this, someone else will get it. Russia works on first come, best deal, first served.

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