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    Guys he derseves cause hes black! He's the desdcent of sharecroppers! His family wallowed under opression in the Jim Crow south!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Guys he derseves cause hes black! He's the desdcent of sharecroppers! His family wallowed under opression in the Jim Crow south!
    How true, most of his appeal rest on the colour of his skin... Would Obama be chosen as a candidate if not because of his colour? Heck no. He would not have rose so high in the first place, before he got nominated either, if he was white. But that is politics - so nothing to grumble about here. It is not as if the business of politics even pretends to be fair and balanced (God, how FOX butchered that slogan... just like "maverick" and Sarah Palin)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    How true, most of his appeal rest on the colour of his skin... Would Obama be chosen as a candidate if not because of his colour? Heck no. He would not have rose so high in the first place, before he got nominated either, if he was white. But that is politics - so nothing to grumble about here. It is not as if the business of politics even pretends to be fair and balanced (God, how FOX butchered that slogan... just like "maverick" and Sarah Palin)
    Yes, I think he would have been chosen, regardless. He is very bright, a fine orator and spoke movingly to the spirit of the times. The great compliment to the American electorate from his election was that race didn't play too much a part in it, either positive or negative.

    Not to mention that the Clinton campaign bungled quite a lot out of sheer arrogance - as did McCain.

    He was an inspirational candidate for an electorate that wanted to hear some good things about their future. Now he's a president that needs to deliver. This is the same for anyone - aspiration is always more fun than practice.

    Now, I might not disagree if you argued that he got the Peace prize because of his colour. That is the kind of empty-handed, paternalistic gesture at which we Europeans are terrifically good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    Yes, I think he would have been chosen, regardless. He is very bright, a fine orator and spoke movingly to the spirit of the times. The great compliment to the American electorate from his election was that race didn't play too much a part in it, either positive or negative.
    That is true, but notice I said that it was unlikely he would ahve risen to Senatorship in the first place, without his colour. What do you think? Being black in Chicago matters.

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    Beats handing it to a terrorist, I guess, but wth?

    The deadline for nominations was Feb 1. So he was nominated on the strength of 11 days in office. And since then he has been all talk about hope and change, but has pretty much kept the course of the previous administration. What a joke the NPP has become.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    What a joke the NPP has become.
    Well, to be fair, it was always the weakest prize... Often times it was awarded to famous, but perhaps not as much deserving individuals.

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    Reagan ended the Cold War without firing a shot and Obama gets the NPP for good intentions. Just another example of the "Audacity of Hype".
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    A zing from the Taliban;
    At the other end of the spectrum, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told the Reuters news agency the award was ridiculous.

    "The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won the 'Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'," he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    They're the ones to talk about violence and killing civilians...

    Also this might be relevant to the discussion:
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama according to link
    I am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the Nobel Committee.

    Let me be clear, I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations.

    To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize, men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

    But I also know that this prize reflects the kind of world that those men and women and all Americans want to build, a world that gives life to the promise of our founding documents.

    And I know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

    And that is why I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century.
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    Why the hell is this on the front page of google news? It's a gay reward no one ever cares about. Miss Universe is a bigger deal. Talk about a slow news day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    Now, I might not disagree if you argued that he got the Peace prize because of his colour. That is the kind of empty-handed, paternalistic gesture at which we Europeans are terrifically good.
    Only if they proclaimed it openly as reducing racial tensions. He's not the first black to get the price and the colour of the peace price wnners seems to have mattered little before.

    I get the feeling that some of the choises (like this year) are only there to attract attention, maybe because that committee only gives out one of the prices. Compare with last year with a reasonable winner, how many remember him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Guys he derseves cause hes black! He's the desdcent of sharecroppers! His family wallowed under opression in the Jim Crow south!
    Actually, his family didn't, since his father was Kenyan, and his mother was white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Actually, his family didn't, since his father was Kenyan, and his mother was white.
    Actually... umm - we know.

    I wonder who the other 204 nominees were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Actually, his family didn't, since his father was Kenyan, and his mother was white.
    Pfft. He looks black therefore he is black. You crackers don't understand what he's been through.
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