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[Pannonian]

I do not propose, I know. I've read it, and it most certainly was not dictated by God direct to the hands of the scribe.

Weren't the gospels originally written in English? Sure, there may have been errors introduced when it was translated into Greek, since Greek misses many of the nuances of the English language, but we can always refer back to the original King James version.

[Zain]

Weren't the gospels originally written in English? Sure, there may have been errors introduced when it was translated into Greek, since Greek misses many of the nuances of the English language, but we can always refer back to the original King James version.

The King James was translated from the original Hebrew. I take the King James as the word of God and do not entirely trust the other translations.

[drone]

The King James was translated from the original Hebrew.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

The King James was translated from the original Hebrew. I take the King James as the word God and do not entirely trust the other translations.

Well, that's not actually true, because many of the copy-texts they worked from were translations from Greek, not originals. No Hebrew or Aramaic originals exist for any of the books of the New Testemant either.

The King James translation suffers from bad copy-texts (we have much better ones now that were discovered in the last 100 years or so), it also suffers from bad methodology because it's a post-Medieval Humanistic work.

Also, it contradicts itself, so it CANNOT be the word of God, God never contradicts himself. Why haven't you checked the verses I cited yet, anyway?

[Zain]

Well, that's not actually true, because many of the copy-texts they worked from were translations from Greek, not originals. No Hebrew or Aramaic originals exist for any of the books of the New Testemant either.

The King James translation suffers from bad copy-texts (we have much better ones now that were discovered in the last 100 years or so), it also suffers from bad methodology because it's a post-Medieval Humanistic work.

Also, it contradicts itself, so it CANNOT be the word of God, God never contradicts himself. Why haven't you checked the verses I cited yet, anyway?

Quite possibly John was a fisherman before or after he was a disciple of John the baptist? I haven't checked because I have been busy here on this thread.

The origin of the Bible matters. It's something I truly need to research. But the lack of religion has no instructions, how do you know you believe correctly without it?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Quite possibly John was a fisherman before or after he was a disciple of John the baptist? I haven't checked because I have been busy here on this thread.

No, read the passages. PETER is a fisherman when Jesus meets him in Mathew and a disciple in John.

The origin of the Bible matters. It's something I truly need to research. But the lack of religion has no instructions, how do you know you believe correctly without it?

The fact that you ask this shows that you have not read the Bible and know very little about the religion you claim to follow. Correct belief is not that relevant to Christianity, when compared to sincere love of God and genuine contrition for sins.

As far as your adherence to the "WORD" goes, the actual word used in the Greek is Logos which means argument or meaning. The confusion came in because the King James follows the doctrinal line of the Latin vulgate which translated it "Verbum", which is speaking.

As my former housemate, who has completed her Master's Degree in Applied Translation said, "all translation is betrayal".

You want to read the Bible? Learn Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew. It won't be any better in those languages.

[Zain]

No, read the passages. PETER is a fisherman when Jesus meets him in Mathew and a disciple in John.

The origin of the Bible matters. It's something I truly need to research. But the lack of religion has no instructions, how do you know you believe correctly without it?[/QUOTE]

The fact that you ask this shows that you have not read the Bible and know very little about the religion you claim to follow. Correct belief is not that relevant to Christianity, when compared to sincere love of God and genuine contrition for sins.

As far as your adherence to the "WORD" goes, the actual word used in the Greek is Logos which means argument or meaning. The confusion came in because the King James follows the doctrinal line of the Latin vulgate which translated it "Verbum", which is speaking.

As my former housemate, who has completed her Master's Degree in Applied Translation said, "all translation is betrayal".

You want to read the Bible? Learn Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew. It won't be any better in those languages.[/QUOTE]

You trash my bible, I understand and do not judge you. But i'd to know, what do you believe and how did you come about believing it as truth? Was it a book? Or your own mind? Or someone elses mind? My following puts myself under a God. Atheism says "I am my own God. I decide right from wrong."

Do you think you know everything? Maybe half of everything? Let's say you know half of everything there is to know. Do you think my God could be in the other half you don't know?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

You trash my bible, I understand and do not judge you. But i'd to know, what do you believe and how did you come about believing it as truth? Was it a book? Or your own mind? Or someone elses mind? My following puts myself under a God. Atheism says "I am my own God. I decide right from wrong."

Do you think you know everything? Maybe half of everything? Let's say you know half of everything there is to know. Do you think my God could be in the other half you don't know?

No you don't understand. I have already told you what I believe, but since you aren't willing to read it, let me make it really embarressingly clear to you:

I BELIEVE in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.

For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come.

Amen.