The Red Phoenix [Concluded]

[Diana Abnoba]

Okay, I understand, anything will help, thanks.

[Yaropolk]

Ok so to put the history of the battle or red cliffs in lamens terms:

3 factions:

Wei (led by Cao Cao)
Shu (led by Liu Bei)
Wu (led by Sun Quan)


4 sentence battle summary:

Cao Cao sails a superior force to attack an alliance of Liu Bei and Sun Quan. Liu Bei's adviser Zhuge Liang predicts that there will be a wind storm on the day of the battle and the allies decide to take advantage of it. Before the battle, Sun Quan's strategist Pang Tong pretends to defect to Cao Cao. The night before the planned battle, Cao Cao's men are seasick so he ties together all his ships to prevent rocking on Pang Tong's advice. During the night, Sun Quan's field commander Zhou Yu sends his leutenant Huang Gai to fake a surrender. Huang Gai sails his ships which have been secretly loaded with incendiary devices for Cao Cao's chained armada. When he is allowed to approach, he sets his ships alight and crashes into Cao Cao's armada. Fanned by the wind storm, the fire incinirates half the troops and Huang Gai brings down a general ass whooping on the Wei army. Cao Cao's army turns tail and runs, pursued by allied troops. Commander Cao Ren stays behind and holds back the pursuers allowing the rest of Cao Cao's army to escape.

Major known players:

Cao Cao's WEI army:
-- Sima Yi, main adviser
-- Cao Ren, minor commander who saved the day

Sun Quan's WU army:
-- Zhou Yu, field commander for the allied forces
-- Pang Tong, faked defection, chained ships together
-- Huang Gai, faked defection, started ship fire

Liu Bei's SHU army:
-- Zhuge Liang, main adviser, predicted a wind storm on the night of the attacks, led his division to steal Wei's arrow supplies the night before the battle
-- Guan Yu, bearded brawler who kicks ass and takes names



People executed so far:

Centurion1 - Mao Jie - WEI, minor character, loyalty never in doubt.
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu - SHU - minor advisor who crossed sides from Shu to Wei, at battle of Red Cliff he saw through Pang Tong's charade, but decided to switch sides to Shu rather than alert Cao Cao
Paulus Tertius - Xun Yu - WEI, minor advisor opposed Cao Cao's power moves historically, could be traitor power role
Death is Yonder - Pang Tong - WU (nicknamed Young Phoenix, so probably main Mafioso of this game) - major advisor for Wu, pretended to defect to Cao Cao before Red Cliffs
Sprig - Sima Yi - WEI - Cao Cao's Machiovellian adviser. Eventually usurped the power for his own descendants.

Assassinated (2):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun - Major general under Cao Cao, loyalty never in doubt, possibly a power role.
atheotes - Jia Xu - Cao Cao's advisor, loyalty never in doubt

Alive:
Faction Heir - Xu Chu - Cao Cao's body guard, very strong, but simple minded, loyalty never in doubt

I am convinced that Huang Gai would have to be the other man sent by Sun Quan. The only thing that has me concerned is that last round Sima Yi was cooperating with a second man. Historically Sima Yi did not colalborate with foreign forces. This makes me wonder if this is just some power role condition that emerged during the game or if I'm missing something.

For any investigators out there, here is a nice summary of characters by faction in case you aren't sure who you are investigating:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ors_characters

[Sprig]

And look at that, you killed Cao Cao's main advisor and investigator on the word of a simple man. Nice!

[seireikhaan]

[FactionHeir]

So far I take it ATPG and Sprig have been working together one of them presumably a detective and the other his investigee.
I'm interested what your investigations have found so far and who you shared them with.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You guys do realize I was claiming detective to distract the mafia and make them target me, right?

I mean I'd continue the charade but it's already been posted in the thread. The only people I'd be fooling is my fellow teammates.

[Sprig]

I won't make any comment on ATPG's comments. As for my results, I can not reveal.

[Diana Abnoba]

Ok so to put the history of the battle or red cliffs in lamens terms:

3 factions:

Wei (led by Cao Cao)
Shu (led by Liu Bei)
Wu (led by Sun Quan)


4 sentence battle summary:

Cao Cao sails a superior force to attack an alliance of Liu Bei and Sun Quan. Liu Bei's adviser Zhuge Liang predicts that there will be a wind storm on the day of the battle and the allies decide to take advantage of it. Before the battle, Sun Quan's strategist Pang Tong pretends to defect to Cao Cao. The night before the planned battle, Cao Cao's men are seasick so he ties together all his ships to prevent rocking on Pang Tong's advice. During the night, Sun Quan's field commander Zhou Yu sends his leutenant Huang Gai to fake a surrender. Huang Gai sails his ships which have been secretly loaded with incendiary devices for Cao Cao's chained armada. When he is allowed to approach, he sets his ships alight and crashes into Cao Cao's armada. Fanned by the wind storm, the fire incinirates half the troops and Huang Gai brings down a general ass whooping on the Wei army. Cao Cao's army turns tail and runs, pursued by allied troops. Commander Cao Ren stays behind and holds back the pursuers allowing the rest of Cao Cao's army to escape.

Major known players:

Cao Cao's WEI army:
-- Sima Yi, main adviser
-- Cao Ren, minor commander who saved the day

Sun Quan's WU army:
-- Zhou Yu, field commander for the allied forces
-- Pang Tong, faked defection, chained ships together
-- Huang Gai, faked defection, started ship fire

Liu Bei's SHU army:
-- Zhuge Liang, main adviser, predicted a wind storm on the night of the attacks, led his division to steal Wei's arrow supplies the night before the battle
-- Guan Yu, bearded brawler who kicks ass and takes names



People executed so far:

Centurion1 - Mao Jie - WEI, minor character, loyalty never in doubt.
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu - SHU - minor advisor who crossed sides from Shu to Wei, at battle of Red Cliff he saw through Pang Tong's charade, but decided to switch sides to Shu rather than alert Cao Cao
Paulus Tertius - Xun Yu - WEI, minor advisor opposed Cao Cao's power moves historically, could be traitor power role
Death is Yonder - Pang Tong - WU (nicknamed Young Phoenix, so probably main Mafioso of this game) - major advisor for Wu, pretended to defect to Cao Cao before Red Cliffs
Sprig - Sima Yi - WEI - Cao Cao's Machiovellian adviser. Eventually usurped the power for his own descendants.

Assassinated (2):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun - Major general under Cao Cao, loyalty never in doubt, possibly a power role.
atheotes - Jia Xu - Cao Cao's advisor, loyalty never in doubt

Alive:
Faction Heir - Xu Chu - Cao Cao's body guard, very strong, but simple minded, loyalty never in doubt

I am convinced that Huang Gai would have to be the other man sent by Sun Quan. The only thing that has me concerned is that last round Sima Yi was cooperating with a second man. Historically Sima Yi did not colalborate with foreign forces. This makes me wonder if this is just some power role condition that emerged during the game or if I'm missing something.

For any investigators out there, here is a nice summary of characters by faction in case you aren't sure who you are investigating:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ors_characters

Thank you so much, this helps a lot!!!