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  1. 10-20-2009, 11:43 #1
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    Default gunbortion time

    OK guns this time.
    Any thoughts on this story...
    http://www.timesleader.com/news/Toti...9-24-2008.html
    As she says a gun needs to be accessible at all times, she shoudn't have to juggle three babies to be able go get the gun when she needs to be able to get it quick, it needs one in the spout at all times just to be safer in case that dreaded event arrives and you need a gun.
    She does have some valid points, her husband is a parole officer so there is a chance that a criminal could get upset at her husband and decide to target his family or his home.
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    You don't waste any time at all do you.

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    Did we just miss out on an abortion thread?

    EDIT: Allright, I'll make this one a true gunbortion thread: If she just aborted her three kids, she wouldn't need a gun anymore!
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    Well that's just silly. To truly protect your children with a gun you need to make them carry one. That way when you need to defend them, one's always handy.


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    Well, at least this is a self-stated gun/gun control thread. Play nice and En Garde!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    Well that's just silly. To truly protect your children with a gun you need to make them carry one. That way when you need to defend them, one's always handy.
    Just pick up a kid and point them at the attacker. Are there any laws against carrying concealed children?
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    The government should take her kids away because they're infringing on her constitutional right to carry a gun.

    I wonder why the other parents got worried, I thought everybody in the USA loved guns and handled them like teddy bears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    The government should take her kids away because they're infringing on her constitutional right to carry a gun.

    I wonder why the other parents got worried, I thought everybody in the USA loved guns and handled them like teddy bears.

    You thought right. Open carry makes you a target. CCW all the way.
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    A gun carrying mum at a soccer match in Lebanon?

    A deadly combination for any referee or opposing coach if I have ever seen one.
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    The government should take her kids away because they're infringing on her constitutional right to carry a gun.
    the ban on her was revoked because her displaying "lack of judgement" was insufficient grounds to take away her permit.

    I wonder why the other parents got worried
    Well she was suing for loss of business as the way she was portrayed got other parents worried and they stopped using her for child care.
    It seems that some parents had an issue about leaving their children in the care of somone like her.
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    I know what Tribesman is doing here and I'm going to let it play out.

    This is fixin to get HILARIOUS.
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    So, she had a legally obtained permit for the concealed carry of firearms. She was carrying a firearm, legally, but some people didn't like it because they're afraid of guns and so the sheriff revokes her permit. According to the sheriff, making use of the permit he issued is sufficient to make her of a questionable character.

    That's a total load of BS. PA is a "shall issue" state, which means that it's not up to the sheriff's discretion. If she passes her background check, he must issue her permit. She should fight this- the law is on her side.
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    <- sums up what I had to say...
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    More guns + more tequila + more Jesus will make the world a better place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Just pick up a kid and point them at the attacker. Are there any laws against carrying concealed children?
    I can see a lot of women breaking this law. How do we know they just aren't fat?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    So, she had a legally obtained permit for the concealed carry of firearms. She was carrying a firearm, legally, but some people didn't like it because they're afraid of guns and so the sheriff revokes her permit. According to the sheriff, making use of the permit he issued is sufficient to make her of a questionable character.

    That's a total load of BS. PA is a "shall issue" state, which means that it's not up to the sheriff's discretion. If she passes her background check, he must issue her permit. She should fight this- the law is on her side.
    I think the "questionable character" point comes from the fact that she carried it to a soccer match. I'm all for gun rights, but there's something very viscerally repulsive to me about mixing guns and children. I mean, even if the person is perfectly safe, it still makes other people extremely uncomfortable, especially parents who don't know her.
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    I don't like guns, but this woman seems to have been following the laws there. If you don't like it then change the laws, don't punish someone for obeying the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    More guns + more tequila + more Jesus will make the world a better place.
    God loves a gun totin', bible quotin' tequila guzzler.
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    God loves a gun totin', bible quotin' tequila guzzler.
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    This is fixin to get HILARIOUS.
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    She should fight this- the law is on her side.
    she did fight it . she won that fight because having questionable judgement is not grounds for revoking the permit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I wonder why the other parents got worried, I thought everybody in the USA loved guns and handled them like teddy bears.

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    This article looks odd.

    What are the open carry laws in PA? She wasn't carrying it concealed so that really isn't an issue.

    Was this soccer game close to a school. What are the PA state laws concerning firearms in or near public buildings, schools, and school-related events.

    If the law only bars issuance of a CCDW permit, and she already has one, how is this law used to revoke her permit?

    Why do so many fat, gun-carrying hicks have to ruin our reputation?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    OK guns this time.
    Any thoughts on this story...
    http://www.timesleader.com/news/Toti...9-24-2008.html
    As she says a gun needs to be accessible at all times, she shoudn't have to juggle three babies to be able go get the gun when she needs to be able to get it quick, it needs one in the spout at all times just to be safer in case that dreaded event arrives and you need a gun.
    She does have some valid points, her husband is a parole officer so there is a chance that a criminal could get upset at her husband and decide to target his family or his home.
    Wow, you have absolutely no class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Wow, you have absolutely no class.

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    His closing sentence make sense and is hardly crude.

    The whole situation is silly and deserves some criticism.
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    Wow, you have absolutely no class.
    What's new?
    Any thoughts on the story though CR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    What's new?
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    The woman in the article was killed by her husband a couple weeks ago.
    Meleanie Hain, the pistol-carrying Lebanon mom who received national attention for taking a loaded gun to her daughter’s soccer game, was talking to a friend via a Web camera when her husband, Scott, shot her to death before killing himself, Lebanon police said today.
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    A gun carrying mum at a soccer match in Lebanon?

    A deadly combination for any referee or opposing coach if I have ever seen one.
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