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    The thing with drug users is; they need x amount of money yearly. As they don't produce anything, that money is going to come from your pocket.

    The only choice you have, is whether give it to them, or have them steal from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The only choice you have, is whether give it to them, or have them steal from you.
    Or shoot them when they try, I think guns and weed are pretty much in the same category when it comes to people knowing what is better for others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The thing with drug users is; they need x amount of money yearly. As they don't produce anything, that money is going to come from your pocket.

    The only choice you have, is whether give it to them, or have them steal from you.
    Actually that's not true. You will find that the majority of drug users work for a living. It's only the problem users who do nothing but get high. Providing them with the drugs they want not only removes the need for crime, but also allows them to stabilise their lives and sort themselves out.

    Some drug users who probably work:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Actually that's not true. You will find that the majority of drug users work for a living. It's only the problem users who do nothing but get high. Providing them with the drugs they want not only removes the need for crime, but also allows them to stabilise their lives and sort themselves out.
    I was talking about the heavy users, yes.
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    Legalize certain drugs. Certain rec "drugs" are too harmful to the body/mind and should still be controlled. State regulated supply for the legalized drugs to ensure quality control and taxation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Legalize certain drugs. Certain rec "drugs" are too harmful to the body/mind and should still be controlled.
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
    ....just like we have no alcohol or tobacco smuggling?
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    treat drugs like other drugs are currently treated in the UK.

    alcohol/coffee/ibruprofen - freely available within quality control constraints to over eighteens.
    harder drugs - prescription only.

    it would marginalise the criminal element, ensure people get a consistently safe product, and bring revenue into the exchequer.
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    If it's legal, it's not cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
    Yes but what would we be doing on the other side all that, we would be actively supporting some very sick people, there is a lot of tragedy at the other side of our supply. We can make rules here but we can't change the very nature of the trade it's from south America and those controlling it are scum, how exactly are you going to legalize it without destroying lives. I do not want to pay taxes for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Yes but what would we be doing on the other side all that, we would be actively supporting some very sick people, there is a lot of tragedy at the other side of our supply. We can make rules here but we can't change the very nature of the trade it's from south America and those controlling it are scum, how exactly are you going to legalize it without destroying lives. I do not want to pay taxes for that.
    I'd assume that they'll only be selling drugs made by themselves... I'm sure the current medical suppliers are capable of making more than they are now with few problems.

    EDIT: Btw, that's the reason I will never, ever touch any drug, no pot or anything. I don't want to support an industry that kills thousands every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
    A fair point, but it begs the question of whether we want people buying cocaine at their corner shop. A number of young men have died in my home town from massive heart attacks, where use is prevelant.

    I've also watched people turn into complete wastrels on hash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
    Sorry, I used unclear terms. By "controlled", I meant illegal in the "classed" or "scheduled" context. Those that would become legalized like alcohol/nicotine would be subject to health and safety regulation and taxation.
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