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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Actually that's not true. You will find that the majority of drug users work for a living. It's only the problem users who do nothing but get high. Providing them with the drugs they want not only removes the need for crime, but also allows them to stabilise their lives and sort themselves out.
    I was talking about the heavy users, yes.
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    Legalize certain drugs. Certain rec "drugs" are too harmful to the body/mind and should still be controlled. State regulated supply for the legalized drugs to ensure quality control and taxation.
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    Legalize certain drugs. Certain rec "drugs" are too harmful to the body/mind and should still be controlled.
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
    ....just like we have no alcohol or tobacco smuggling?
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    treat drugs like other drugs are currently treated in the UK.

    alcohol/coffee/ibruprofen - freely available within quality control constraints to over eighteens.
    harder drugs - prescription only.

    it would marginalise the criminal element, ensure people get a consistently safe product, and bring revenue into the exchequer.
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    Interesting that no-one has supported the current policies and next to no-one supports 'more of the same only worse'.

    It does leave the question of who our politicians are appealing to with their moribund approach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Interesting that no-one has supported the current policies and next to no-one supports 'more of the same only worse'.

    It does leave the question of who our politicians are appealing to with their moribund approach?
    People who don't read the Org? In the UK at least, people who are most likely to vote in numbers aren't really the kind of people I'd associate with playing TW games.

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    I fail to grasp the difference between the last two options. Plus does the UK's licensing system regards the sale of alcohol come under state control?
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    If it's legal, it's not cool.

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    Default Re: What changes would you support to our narcotics laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
    Yes but what would we be doing on the other side all that, we would be actively supporting some very sick people, there is a lot of tragedy at the other side of our supply. We can make rules here but we can't change the very nature of the trade it's from south America and those controlling it are scum, how exactly are you going to legalize it without destroying lives. I do not want to pay taxes for that.

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    Default Re: What changes would you support to our narcotics laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Yes but what would we be doing on the other side all that, we would be actively supporting some very sick people, there is a lot of tragedy at the other side of our supply. We can make rules here but we can't change the very nature of the trade it's from south America and those controlling it are scum, how exactly are you going to legalize it without destroying lives. I do not want to pay taxes for that.
    I'd assume that they'll only be selling drugs made by themselves... I'm sure the current medical suppliers are capable of making more than they are now with few problems.

    EDIT: Btw, that's the reason I will never, ever touch any drug, no pot or anything. I don't want to support an industry that kills thousands every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    EDIT: Btw, that's the reason I will never, ever touch any drug, no pot or anything. I don't want to support an industry that kills thousands every year.
    Do you drink? Drive a car? Eat fast food? Use power tools? Support any sort of political movement?
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    Default Re: What changes would you support to our narcotics laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Do you drink? Drive a car? Eat fast food? Use power tools? Support any sort of political movement?
    Bah. Not even close.
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    Default Re: What changes would you support to our narcotics laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
    A fair point, but it begs the question of whether we want people buying cocaine at their corner shop. A number of young men have died in my home town from massive heart attacks, where use is prevelant.

    I've also watched people turn into complete wastrels on hash.
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    Default Re: What changes would you support to our narcotics laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    I would argue that a legal market is a controlled market. A black market is an uncontrolled market.
    Sorry, I used unclear terms. By "controlled", I meant illegal in the "classed" or "scheduled" context. Those that would become legalized like alcohol/nicotine would be subject to health and safety regulation and taxation.
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