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    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    my libreal pres has stil not confirmt its the evil muslisms
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    Sounds like the standard disgruntled, going postal event, except the gunman escaped and nobody died (yet).

    Edit-> 1 dead, and disgruntled ex-employee in custody.
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    A BBC report, with info drone has;
    Police in the US city of Orlando say they have arrested a gunman who opened fire in an office building, killing one person and injuring five others.

    Jason Rodriguez, a 40-year-old man who once worked in the building, surrendered to police at his mother's house, police chief Val Demings said.

    The attack took place at the offices of an engineering firm at the Gateway Center building at 1130 (1630 GMT).
    Luckily the toll is low. Also, he was fired two years ago.

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    Well, they say a shooting like the ft hood one can spark others, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Also, he was fired two years ago.
    Which is probably why he half-ed it. Can you really hold a grudge for that long? If he was truly mad he would have killed more and done himself in at the end.
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    People are going to start killing each other more and more. The question that alot of these people ask themselves, some of whom are reasonably rational is: "I want to, so why shouldn't I?"

    Seems like they are coming up short of answers as of late.

    Single people have less to lose and fewer to embarass. Marriage rates are going down and males are losing their jobs at a faster rate than women because of the pay disparity. There is alot to be frustrated about and we shouldn't look at newspapers like they are UFO's when we hear that people are killing one another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas
    What's the big deal? Americans are shooting each other all the time...
    The deal is that the wrong people die at these shootings.



    America is a big country. A brief google didn't yield any numbers I was looking for, but I think the amount of shootings isn't tremendously higher per capita.

    Shootings are culturally determined. Famous are the suicide bombers, of mainly the Islamic world. And another well-known example are school shootings, which are confined to the north. In Europe, only the Northwest. Germany, Scandinavia (Finland!), the British Isles. And North America.

    Not South America or Southern Europe. No satisfactory explanation exists. Though some psychologists argue that Northerners do not express themselves emotionally. They internalise anger, and then, one day, a year later, two year's later, eight years later, they explode. They take out all of their stored frustration.
    Latins express their emotions on the spot, and that's it. Fiery and feisty, instead of years of build up anger looking for an outlet.

    This latter seems to be the origin of the shootings in Texas and Florida.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Shootings are culturally determined. Famous are the suicide bombers, of mainly the Islamic world. And another well-known example are school shootings, which are confined to the north. In Europe, only the Northwest. Germany, Scandinavia (Finland!), the British Isles. And North America.
    I feel I must slap you, Louis.

    There haven't been any school shootings in Scandinavia at all. Scandinavia is just Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Finland isn't part of it, they're a part of the nordic countries, "the North"(Norden), which consists of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, the Faroe Islands, Greenland and Åland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    There haven't been any school shootings in Scandinavia at all.
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...15208972?f=rss

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanebog...chool_shooting

    There have also been arrests in Sweden and Norway to prevent school shootings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...15208972?f=rss

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanebog...chool_shooting

    There have also been arrests in Sweden and Norway to prevent school shootings.
    That first one wasn't a "school shooting", that was a murder who took place outside a school. A rather big difference. Luckily the man was an ethnic norwegian, otherwise this one would've been a classic example of an honour killing... But as he wasn't black, he got care and sympathy instead of an enraged mob...

    The second one was a nine year old who brought a shotgun to school, probably to intimidate. Again, not what school shootings are about, as they are about people who are fully aware of what they are doing, the consequences of it, and they go there to kill. That nine year old didn't.

    I can't speak for Sweden, but there have certainly not been any "arrests" due to threats, etc against schools. They've been taken care of child services and given extra care and psychological help, we don't arrest minors here.

    So no, still no school shootings here Not saying they won't happen though, just that there haven't been any yet...

    also, my response was mainly aimed at Louis' inferior geography skills...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderous lunatic
    "I'm just going through a tough time right now, I'm sorry," the 40-year-old suspect who had recently declared bankruptcy allegedly told police as he was taken into custody.
    Dear God. What ever happened to going down the pub and drowning one's sorrows?

    Or going to the study with a whiskey and a revolver and blowing your own brains out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    Dear God. What ever happened to going down the pub and drowning one's sorrows?

    Or going to the study with a whiskey and a revolver and blowing your own brains out?
    That doesn't make the national news.
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    Bloodbath in French school narrowly averted:
    A 13-year-old French boy set out Tuesday to mow down his teachers with a shotgun but abandoned the plan when he arrived at the school and found it surrounded by police, officials said.

    The boy's parents raised the alarm when they realised he had taken the family gun from their house near Beauvais, north of Paris, and was headed to his school in Beauvais itself, officials said.
    The teenager was in custody on suspicion of attempted murder and admitted his homicidal intentions during an interview, Beauvais prosecutor James Juan said in a statement.

    He wanted "to attack his teachers who quarrelled with him even though he had done nothing (wrong)," Juan said. The boy, said to be a video game enthusiast, had on Monday left a message on his blog stating that "this is the last day of my life."

    Police warned the head of the 2,000-pupil Saint Esprit school to keep his students confined to their classrooms as the drama unfolded. Yeddou stressed that the boy never managed to get into the school and students were not in danger at any point.

    The alarm was raised at 8:15 am (0715 GMT) by the boy's parents, who had become concerned by his unusual behaviour and searched their house, finding the gun and ammunition gone. "His parents were worried when they saw him leave the house very early, around 7:00 am. He did not seem to be his usual self," a source close to the investigation said.
    Phew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis
    school shootings, which are confined to the north. In Europe, only the Northwest. Germany, Scandinavia (Finland!), the British Isles. And North America.

    Not South America or Southern Europe. No satisfactory explanation exists. Though some psychologists argue that Northerners do not express themselves emotionally. They internalise anger, and then, one day, a year later, two year's later, eight years later, they explode. They take out all of their stored frustration.
    Latins express their emotions on the spot, and that's it. Fiery and feisty, instead of years of build up anger looking for an outlet.
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    Well, when I was 13 my parents still had a closer look at what games I played and they certainly didn't have a shotgun lying around...
    I can see how the little video gamer remark may lead to lots of discussions about bans anyway though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post

    Shootings are culturally determined. Famous are the suicide bombers, of mainly the Islamic world. And another well-known example are school shootings, which are confined to the north. In Europe, only the Northwest. Germany, Scandinavia (Finland!), the British Isles. And North America.


    Finland doesn't share language or genetical heritage with the scandinavian countries...

    Finland is more like Russia when it comes to linguistics and genetic print. The culture is also different (allthough less so, given Sweden owned Finland for quite a long period of time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post


    Finland doesn't share language or genetical heritage with the scandinavian countries...
    Indeed they don't! Culturally, we have a lot more in common with the krauts and brits than we do with the Finns. Heck, the only reason we have anything in common with them is, as you said, because Sweden oppressed them for a few centuries. It's kinda like saying that the Indians and British are the same....

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    I propose that we take up the viking raids again!

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    Scandanavia hasn't given anything to the world.

    It's an utterly useless icebox.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

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    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Scandanavia hasn't given anything to the world.

    It's an utterly useless icebox.
    Must... not.... feed.... the.... troll...

    Must... not... fall.... for.... flamebait...

    Just a short answer though - blonde girls

    And you might very well argue that there are blonde girls elsewhere, however, that is due to the viking raids that HoreTore mentioned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Must... not.... feed.... the.... troll...

    Must... not... fall.... for.... flamebait...

    Just a short answer though - blonde girls

    And you might very well argue that there are blonde girls elsewhere, however, that is due to the viking raids that HoreTore mentioned...
    Since when did facts become trolling. Your countries claim to fame is putting jelly instead of tomato suace on meatballs.

    I prefer brunettes so meh.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Since when did facts become trolling. Your countries claim to fame is putting jelly instead of tomato suace on meatballs.

    I prefer brunettes so meh.
    Very good, you are of course right. *pats on head*

    Now troll off :)



    ON TOPIC: My thoughts goes out to the victims in this useless shooting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Very good, you are of course right. *pats on head*

    Now troll off :)



    ON TOPIC: My thoughts goes out to the victims in this useless shooting...
    This guy.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    You can't win this, Strike. Our Scandinavian posters will all be permanently drunk, depressed and full time behind their computer screen until April, when there will be daylight again.
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    There's always Danishes, right? Those are pretty good.

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    We need to deploy Sasaki into their evil Mafia. I'm sure they'll end up lynching eachother before another such shooting happens again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    You can't win this, Strike. Our Scandinavian posters will all be permanently drunk, depressed and full time behind their computer screen until April, when there will be daylight again.
    Yeah, cause the winter is just HORRID for us Swedish ski instructors!



    EDIT: You were not all wrong about the "permanently drunk" part though... But then, it's not so bad sitting down with your guests or friends after a long fun day in the slope, drinking some beer and having a good time :)

    That's me BTW, from last season. Just another day at the office ;)
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    Nice post Khagar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronos Impera View Post
    Nice post Khagar.
    Sometimes a picture does say more than a thousand words

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Bollox
    He was quite young though. Probably not as reflected about his actions compared to older shooters. (13 vs. 17+)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    You can't win this, Strike. Our Scandinavian posters will all be permanently drunk, depressed and full time behind their computer screen until April, when there will be daylight again.
    I can assure you Louis, we're all just as drunk all year round....
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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