phalangitai... too few spears?

[Karamazovmm]

Thanks for the up, JMRC, as you can see we're not going off topic, and these are not he droids you're looking for.
And has someone tried to import the code for the phalanx animation from other TW title, like empire? if this works it could help you all with the formation problem (it's just a suggestion I might add, that I'm a terrible modder) And thanks for the up!

This might sound rude, and I'm sure it will be. RUDE!

Now after this, I can say that the why I put the meaning of charge that I utilize was for clarification purposes, because I knew you would say that charge is an attack, well so let's put it a different way, it's rapid deployment. (and not that i give a rats ass to what wiki says).

Done with this, it's impractical with the length of the lances that the hoplitai utilised to be "only" a matter of shield push (as I stated in my previous post) it's more of a matter of dinamics, you can't pierce someone with your lance if your're bashing shields with him.

There's a difference in my book between not performing at peak efficiency and losing enough cohesion to disturb and break the formation (what happened at Pydna).

Well for me the difference is there, but statistically doesn't count in this type of formation, when you loose some of that efficiency you can have a loss of cohesion and therefore you will break formation

And lastly we cannot argue about pydna, yes it was an important battle, but its almost as obscure as was the wars that I'm currently researching, see above post.

Summarizing, discussing ancient warfare is great, just love it (much better than to watch a 12 year old boy eating a pulsating heart that he, with the help of others, cut out of a recently captured prisoner, seriously it's loads of fun compared to this, nevermind the gang rapes, the cutting of limbs, the eating/insertion of potato mashers or IEDs). and not arguing that they were more humane back then. I strayed again, I apologize, but we can't be sure of anything, I'm not history channel to tell what conversation happened before the battle, the morale of the troops, the training or lack of thereof, we can't, and I can assure you mostly of what we know today and consider truth from a battle perspective is something of boderline bogus, not trying to diminish any historians or archaeologists, but we don't have the manual of the drills utilized for most of the units that happen to be in this mod,for the most part we don't and mostly can't trust the ancient historians, because of their exaggerated accounts in many situations, and so a considerable part of the knowledge that we have doesn't conform to be hardcore of a theory, they're suppositions.

ps: when I get home I'll take a look at the sources for this, but most are unpublished studies, I will see if I can get my hands on then for you