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    First time playing as them and a few queries.

    All of their territories in the immediate vicinity are all type 3 and 4 governments and I can only imagine this holds true for places further afield so can I get type 1 or type 2 government at all? (even other fractured tribal types like the Lusotannan get type 1 and 2's in some places).

    Related to that is this, what does the trait 'Royal Eye' do? After reading it I assumed it meant that an FM could be in a Type 3 or 4 (and thus pass on his management and influence bonuses) without accruing 'Interloper' unrest penalties. Does it mean that I can have an FM in the type 3/4 alongside a merc general?

    Early on I can't afford eastern merc generals so this means all of my characters economic abilities are completely useless which seems really...lame.

    Finally, anyone else playing on hard campaign/medium battle how do you deal with a belligerent AS only 20 turns in? I decided not to support Pahlava and remain pro-AS but they declared on me immediately after and have been sending 5-6 unit stacks at me every few turns, means that my army has to keep on chasing them off and so I cannot expand much at all (I've managed to take Kotais, Trapezous and Mtskheta) and my finances are in trouble...Suggestions?

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    You should read the EB FAQ, this has to do with the Haydastan reforms.

    Quoted from the FAQ:

    Hayasdan: 2
    Pan-Caucasus Empire Reform
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Part1:
    -Upgrade Armavir to a Large Town
    -Build in Armavir a (market), (roads), (town_garrison)(L1 law), and (sanitize)(L1 health).
    = (Homeland resource will appear in Armavir)

    Part 2:
    -Build a Type1 government in Armavir
    = (Improved government resources will appear around the Caucasus region)

    Part 3:
    -Build Type3 or better governments in these cities (Armavir, Karkathiokerta, Ani-Kamah, Phraaspa, Kotais, Trapezous, Kabalaka, Mtskheta)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Amaseia and Mazaka)

    Persian Reform
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    -Build Type3 governments in these cities (Arbela, Seleukeia, Babylon, Ekbatana, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
    -Build (persiapart) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Susa, and Persepolis)

    Western Expansion 2:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, and Charax)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, and Charax)

    Western Expansion 3:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Palmyra, Edessa, and Arbela)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Palmyra, Edessa, and Arbela)

    Western Expansion 4:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Tarsos, Antiocheia, and Damaskos)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Palmyra, Edessa, Arbela, Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Tarsos, Antiocheia, and Damaskos)

    Eastern Expansion 2a:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Zadrakata, Apameia, and Gabai)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Zadrakata, Apameia, and Gabai)

    Eastern Expansion 2b:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Karmana and Gabai)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Karmana and Gabai)

    Eastern Expansion 3a:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Asaak, Hekatompylos, and Alexandreia-Ariane)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai, Karmana, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Asaak, Hekatompylos, and Alexndreia-Ariane)

    Eastern Expansion 3b:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Pura, Alexandropolis, Prophthasia, and Alexandreia-Ariane)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai, Karmana, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Pura, Alexandropolis, Prophthasia, and Alexandreia-Ariane)

    Eastern Expasion 4:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Baktra, Antiocheia-Margiane, and Kophen)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Pura, Alexandropolis, Prophthasia, Alexandreia-Ariane, Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai, Karmana, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resrouces will appear in Baktra, Antiocheia-Margiane, and Kophen)


    The Royal Eye trait just means that they're a direct representative (satrap) of the Hay king, they are still FMs so can only govern in type I, II or III gov without getting the Interloper trait.

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    All I can say is be aggressive, because if you aren't aggressive now, you will regret it later.
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    Default Re: Hayasdan

    Stone walls, caucasian archers, caucasian slingers, and some infantry (the best would be Georgian, but meh). With this setup you can hold some pretty large AS armies off.
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    You don't get any heavily armoured units until the Pan-Caucas reforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf The Great View Post
    You don't get any heavily armoured units until the Pan-Caucas reforms.
    Get them quick! Its like christmas and birthday at the same moment!

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