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    Default Re: Hayasdan

    You should read the EB FAQ, this has to do with the Haydastan reforms.

    Quoted from the FAQ:

    Hayasdan: 2
    Pan-Caucasus Empire Reform
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Part1:
    -Upgrade Armavir to a Large Town
    -Build in Armavir a (market), (roads), (town_garrison)(L1 law), and (sanitize)(L1 health).
    = (Homeland resource will appear in Armavir)

    Part 2:
    -Build a Type1 government in Armavir
    = (Improved government resources will appear around the Caucasus region)

    Part 3:
    -Build Type3 or better governments in these cities (Armavir, Karkathiokerta, Ani-Kamah, Phraaspa, Kotais, Trapezous, Kabalaka, Mtskheta)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Amaseia and Mazaka)

    Persian Reform
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    -Build Type3 governments in these cities (Arbela, Seleukeia, Babylon, Ekbatana, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
    -Build (persiapart) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Susa, and Persepolis)

    Western Expansion 2:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, and Charax)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, and Charax)

    Western Expansion 3:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Palmyra, Edessa, and Arbela)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Palmyra, Edessa, and Arbela)

    Western Expansion 4:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Tarsos, Antiocheia, and Damaskos)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Palmyra, Edessa, Arbela, Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Tarsos, Antiocheia, and Damaskos)

    Eastern Expansion 2a:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Zadrakata, Apameia, and Gabai)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Zadrakata, Apameia, and Gabai)

    Eastern Expansion 2b:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Karmana and Gabai)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Karmana and Gabai)

    Eastern Expansion 3a:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Asaak, Hekatompylos, and Alexandreia-Ariane)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai, Karmana, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Asaak, Hekatompylos, and Alexndreia-Ariane)

    Eastern Expansion 3b:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Pura, Alexandropolis, Prophthasia, and Alexandreia-Ariane)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai, Karmana, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Pura, Alexandropolis, Prophthasia, and Alexandreia-Ariane)

    Eastern Expasion 4:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Baktra, Antiocheia-Margiane, and Kophen)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Pura, Alexandropolis, Prophthasia, Alexandreia-Ariane, Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai, Karmana, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resrouces will appear in Baktra, Antiocheia-Margiane, and Kophen)


    The Royal Eye trait just means that they're a direct representative (satrap) of the Hay king, they are still FMs so can only govern in type I, II or III gov without getting the Interloper trait.

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    All I can say is be aggressive, because if you aren't aggressive now, you will regret it later.
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    Default Re: Hayasdan

    Stone walls, caucasian archers, caucasian slingers, and some infantry (the best would be Georgian, but meh). With this setup you can hold some pretty large AS armies off.
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    You don't get any heavily armoured units until the Pan-Caucas reforms.
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    Default Re: Hayasdan

    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf The Great View Post
    You don't get any heavily armoured units until the Pan-Caucas reforms.
    Get them quick! Its like christmas and birthday at the same moment!

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    Default Re: Hayasdan

    Thanks for the info.

    I managed to weather the storm for a while and had taken Kotais, Trapezous, Mtskheta and Kabalaka and started building a city upgrade for Armavir (almost got the reforms...). I had a 5 unit army of pure HA's guarding me from Phraaspa, using the distance to whittle away at the smaller stacks coming from that side and my main army (3x caucasian archers, 2 x caucasian slingers, 4x FM's, 1 x Eastern Javelin, 4x caucasian spear and 2 x armenian spear) defending against increasingly larger stacks from Kharkatiokherta.

    For whatever reason AS seemed to have a major grudge with me for daring to remain their ally, I briefly removed FOW and they've lost swathes of land to the Ptolies (antioch, edessa, damascus, palmyra, bostra,babylon!) and they still move all of their troops against me. I decided to restart when I saw 2 full (20 unit) stacks with good FM's and a fair number of pezhetairoi/phalanx marching right towards me.

    I was amazed, first time I've ever faced an aggressive AS. I usually play as Pontos and end up taking Asia Minor to Charax and all in between pretty reliably.

    Got to say though, I do like the Hayasdan and will be trying again soon. After some more success as Pontos though, Zadrakarta doesn't conquer itself you know...

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    I have finished the Persian Reform for Hayasdan and have built type 1 gov in Susa and Persepolis, but my Faction Leader still don't get the title "Shahan Shah". It has to do with the arrival of Eleutheroi Diplomat Isaac at Armavir? I am waiting to him to be spawned but no sight of him.
    Last edited by Nyz; 11-10-2009 at 17:56.

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