Hayasdan

**vartan** · 11-08-2009, 20:27

All I can say is be aggressive, because if you aren't aggressive now, you will regret it later.

**Hax** · 11-09-2009, 11:43

Stone walls, caucasian archers, caucasian slingers, and some infantry (the best would be Georgian, but meh). With this setup you can hold some pretty large AS armies off.

**Olaf The Great** · 11-09-2009, 13:38

You don't get any heavily armoured units until the Pan-Caucas reforms.

**ziegenpeter** · 11-09-2009, 16:07

Originally Posted by Olaf The Great

You don't get any heavily armoured units until the Pan-Caucas reforms.

Get them quick! Its like christmas and birthday at the same moment!

**Scutarii** · 11-09-2009, 19:15

Thanks for the info.

I managed to weather the storm for a while and had taken Kotais, Trapezous, Mtskheta and Kabalaka and started building a city upgrade for Armavir (almost got the reforms...). I had a 5 unit army of pure HA's guarding me from Phraaspa, using the distance to whittle away at the smaller stacks coming from that side and my main army (3x caucasian archers, 2 x caucasian slingers, 4x FM's, 1 x Eastern Javelin, 4x caucasian spear and 2 x armenian spear) defending against increasingly larger stacks from Kharkatiokherta.

For whatever reason AS seemed to have a major grudge with me for daring to remain their ally, I briefly removed FOW and they've lost swathes of land to the Ptolies (antioch, edessa, damascus, palmyra, bostra,babylon!) and they still move all of their troops against me. I decided to restart when I saw 2 full (20 unit) stacks with good FM's and a fair number of pezhetairoi/phalanx marching right towards me.

I was amazed, first time I've ever faced an aggressive AS. I usually play as Pontos and end up taking Asia Minor to Charax and all in between pretty reliably.

Got to say though, I do like the Hayasdan and will be trying again soon. After some more success as Pontos though, Zadrakarta doesn't conquer itself you know...

**Nyz** · 11-10-2009, 10:24

I have finished the Persian Reform for Hayasdan and have built type 1 gov in Susa and Persepolis, but my Faction Leader still don't get the title "Shahan Shah". It has to do with the arrival of Eleutheroi Diplomat Isaac at Armavir? I am waiting to him to be spawned but no sight of him.

**artavazd** · 11-10-2009, 18:47

Originally Posted by intifadanyz

I have finished the Persian Reform for Hayasdan and have built type 1 gov in Susa and Persepolis, but my Faction Leader still don't get the title "Shahan Shah". It has to do with the arrival of Eleutheroi Diplomat Isaac at Armavir? I am waiting to him to be spawned but no sight of him.

I think he gets the title "Arkahen Arkah" Armenian for King of Kings.