I don't think I've ever seen a cataphract reenactor until now

**Duguntz** · 11-13-2009, 22:22

guys guys guys, let's stop the movie bashing! If you wanna learn something stop to complain that the movies are ahistorical or any shit like that god damn, movie are for entertainment, if you want education, watch a documentary, discovery channel or get up from your computer and read a damn book.

Mel Gipson did a great job with every of his movies and it's not because he didn't worked day and night with an historian that YOU have the right to discreditate his movie!

all your bashing is as significant as bashing on the movie 300 for ''ahistorical'' reason

I've a good one for you : there are some movie wich are only for entertainment!

**A Very Super Market** · 11-13-2009, 23:26

Das Boot is not as realistic as you think. The writer of the book denounced the movie as a bunch of lies. Although unwarranted, this is the truth. You see the experienced crew whimpering meekly under depth charge attack, enough rivets popping to implode the sub 8 times over, and the reporter being subjected to court-martial material actions.

Neither was "The Thin Red Line". I think we can assume that all movies hold some degree of ahistoricality, and let it be. Das Boot is enjoyable regardless of these rather minor faults, and I'm sure there are people who enjoyed Braveheart for reasons other than accuracy. Only the ones who take entertainment for reality are the fools.

**ARCHIPPOS** · 11-14-2009, 00:03

i never said they were "historical " ... no work of art is truly "accurate" (because art stylizes and aestheticaly augments banal reality) i said they were "un-cheesier" and deeper than most war-glorifying Hollywood stuff ... speaking of trashy Mel Gibson historic flics i'ld like to add a decent one i just remembered in hich he starred ...Peter Weir's "Gallipoli"...

**antisocialmunky** · 11-14-2009, 01:23

GI JOE - RISE OF COBRAAAAAAA. Can we move on now?

**Azathoth** · 11-14-2009, 03:26

La 317eme Section. Nuff said.

**IrishHitman** · 11-14-2009, 07:44

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Only the ones who take entertainment for reality are the fools.

People who watch Fox News, in other words...

**ziegenpeter** · 11-14-2009, 10:08

I haven't seen them yet but a history interested friend told me that Waterloo and Masada were very accurate movies.

**Macilrille** · 11-14-2009, 11:05

Originally Posted by vartan

And what my friend would be the "actual thing"? hmm?

The various forms of war, and even history, they depict- as you know if you are a regular I am both a historian and re-enactor.
The Russel Crowe Robin Hood wanted to make an effort and use the best re-enactors, but at the last moment decided they could not afford it, as if that is going to make its earnings go red, LOL.

I think we should not actually start to bash specific films, bashing has a tendency to turn personal and I am sorry to have started the trend.

**Ludens** · 11-14-2009, 13:39

Originally Posted by Macilrille

I think we should not actually start to bash specific films, bashing has a tendency to turn personal and I am sorry to have started the trend.

Good idea. Venting about bad historical accuracy in films has led nowhere in the past.

I am surprised to learn Das Boot is not as accurate as I thought it was. The director went through a lot of trouble to build a realistic German submarine and the cast was not allowed outside during the summer so they would get the pale facial colour of real submarine crews. However, I suppose his motivation was to recreate the atmosphere inside an U-boat, rather than an actual U-boat warfare.