Why is Rome TW named Rome TW?

[vartan]

yeah, I thought so too, but EB has its flaws and length too.
Still awesome work for a modding team.

Let's be frank here, alright. There is no better modification of Rome: Total War than Europa Barbarorum. When Europa Barbarorum II arrives for M2TW, it will be the best mod for that game.

And GaiusSchmulus, warm welcome to the EB community.

-Vartan

[ziegenpeter]

Let's be frank here, alright. There is no better modification of Rome: Total War than Europa Barbarorum. When Europa Barbarorum II arrives for M2TW, it will be the best mod for that game.

Well I guess DoTS will give EB a nice competition...

[GaiusSchmulus]

yeah, I thought so too, but EB has its flaws and length too.

Really. Please enlight me. I didn't found any flaw yet...

Let's be frank here, alright. There is no better modification of Rome: Total War than Europa Barbarorum.

True. Or let's say, I didn't found any better. EB almost leaves no space for further improvements. While most of the big Mods I've played are all made upon the same base, EB is quite unique and refreshingly challenging to play.

Since I never liked playing Medieval 2, I don't see EB 2 becoming that good. Medieval 2 featured some quite annoying gameplay elements and stripped some cool ones that came with Rome.

[Cute Wolf]

Since I never liked playing Medieval 2, I don't see EB 2 becoming that good. Medieval 2 featured some quite annoying gameplay elements and stripped some cool ones that came with Rome.

Bet you:
1. never patch your medieval vanilla game... (dual handed bug and shield bug)
2. not pious enough to get your army march on crusade or jihad (or hate the pope badly)
3. dislike time-based reforms (gunpowder reform and mercenary appearance, in that case)
4. frustated in gaining almost no-charm princess that have a secret love
5. always lose your merchant
6. your family are branded as heretics and burned by the inquisitors
7. your cities burned, your men killed, and your girls raped by the ultra violent very fearsome silver stack mongols
8. never try to invade america and cut aztec's throat
9. never install kingdoms
and much more funny thing about M2TW....

[GaiusSchmulus]

Bet you:
1. never patch your medieval vanilla game... (dual handed bug and shield bug)
2. not pious enough to get your army march on crusade or jihad (or hate the pope badly)
3. dislike time-based reforms (gunpowder reform and mercenary appearance, in that case)
4. frustated in gaining almost no-charm princess that have a secret love
5. always lose your merchant
6. your family are branded as heretics and burned by the inquisitors
7. your cities burned, your men killed, and your girls raped by the ultra violent very fearsome silver stack mongols
8. never try to invade america and cut aztec's throat
9. never install kingdoms
and much more funny thing about M2TW....

I'll bet I:

1. patch any game I start to play
2. was on so many crusades in other games that this truly can't get me hocked up
3. I like reforms, specially the Marius one
4. i'm never frustrated, at the most disappointed
5. don't even ever got that far in the game to lose the merchant
6. won't include my family into game discussions
7. could burn cities, kill men, and rape girls when I evolve the need to go to Afghanistan
8. never go to America at all
9. rather install Democracys

But I'll bet you're:

1. a Medieval 2 "Fanboy" who is disappointed in my opinion to dislike this game, which I played for exactly 3 rounds and could, will and never have a good opinion on

And yeah, if i'm into TW games to create a bloody massacre, I could also play L4D instead...

[Knight of Heaven]

I'll bet I:

1. patch any game I start to play
2. was on so many crusades in other games that this truly can't get me hocked up
3. I like reforms, specially the Marius one
4. i'm never frustrated, at the most disappointed
5. don't even ever got that far in the game to lose the merchant
6. won't include my family into game discussions
7. could burn cities, kill men, and rape girls when I evolve the need to go to Afghanistan
8. never go to America at all
9. rather install Democracys

But I'll bet you're:

1. a Medieval 2 "Fanboy" who is disappointed in my opinion to dislike this game, which I played for exactly 3 rounds and could, will and never have a good opinion on

And yeah, if i'm into TW games to create a bloody massacre, I could also play L4D instead...

Please you are now been to farsighted, to not understand what he said. First he wasnt talking about your family, he was taliking about your Family members in the game... second it is obviously that you never played M2TW enough time, to apreciate the game fully, or to understand it and the things he said. if you only play 3 rounds how come you have such a profound opinion on the game. It is natural that people who played m2Tw found your opinion, rubish and lacking in arguments.

M2TW is better game overall then RTW could had been. Of course it has its faults, and it lacks somethings. But it has better AI then RTW, the Battle AI is more smarter, And the Battle engine is also better. The cavalry is way more realistic then RTW for instance. The AI in campaing is WAy better then RTW.

Anyway i prefer RTW becouse i prefer the Historical era, and i think M2tw has a dark enviroment to it. But i think EB2 will be very good, if the spirit, the enviroment of EB1 persist in EB2. Anyway there is good mods for M2tw asweal.

[Cute Wolf]

I'll bet I:

1. patch any game I start to play
2. was on so many crusades in other games that this truly can't get me hocked up
3. I like reforms, specially the Marius one
4. i'm never frustrated, at the most disappointed
5. don't even ever got that far in the game to lose the merchant
6. won't include my family into game discussions
7. could burn cities, kill men, and rape girls when I evolve the need to go to Afghanistan
8. never go to America at all
9. rather install Democracys

But I'll bet you're:

1. a Medieval 2 "Fanboy" who is disappointed in my opinion to dislike this game, which I played for exactly 3 rounds and could, will and never have a good opinion on

And yeah, if i'm into TW games to create a bloody massacre, I could also play L4D instead...

HOLY LULZ! I bold your funny arguments here, so all of us can lol at that!!!
Here's my analysis about you...
3. You never play much to get gunpowder units... let alone trying them in cutom battle at all
5. What? got far? Merchant kills merchants is commonplace in all time! or you never put any sight on your merchants you start with?
6. You think I was refer to your actual family .... .... you really never face any Inquisitors in M2TW? and you claim that you have play it??? Oh.... LOL
9. And where is the Democracys expansion pack for M2TW? I want to buy it NOW!!!

And I was playing RTW, BI, Alex, M2TW, Kingdoms, and Empire... But unlike your prediction, I was "Fanboy" of EB too...

Please you are now been to farsighted, to not understand what he said. First he wasnt talking about your family, he was taliking about your Family members in the game... second it is obviously that you never played M2TW enough time, to apreciate the game fully, or to understand it and the things he said. if you only play 3 rounds how come you have such a profound opinion on the game. It is natural that people who played m2Tw found your opinion, rubish and lacking in arguments.

That's right! and with all those analysis, we could assume that:
GaiusSchmulus NEVER PLAYED MEDIEVAL 2 TOTAL WAR AT ALL

[applebreath]

Since I never liked playing Medieval 2, I don't see EB 2 becoming that good. Medieval 2 featured some quite annoying gameplay elements and stripped some cool ones that came with Rome.

I don't like M2TW either. Because of it, I wont be buying CA games, unless I need to for a mod. But I don't know why you wouldn't love EB2 even more than EB1. It's the exact same kind of game as EB1 (SAME time period), except with more features and more options to mod (AI can actually be improved upon).

EB2 will have nothing to do with the medieval atmosphere/time period.

-Apple

[GaiusSchmulus]

It's the exact same kind of game as EB1 (SAME time period), except with more features and more options to mod (AI can actually be improved upon).

EB2 will have nothing to do with the medieval atmosphere/time period.

If it's an exact and enhanced copy of EB 1 ported to Medieval 2 Engine, then it is of course much better. But I think they will include (and modifie) much of the new game elements of Medieval 2. Spontanous I could name the Assassin as a bad gameplay element, as I never liked my family members to die (except on the battlefield or by aging).

I'll give EB2 and Medieval 2 a chance, once I completed on playing EB 1. But this can take it's time...

[WinsingtonIII]

Since I never liked playing Medieval 2, I don't see EB 2 becoming that good. Medieval 2 featured some quite annoying gameplay elements and stripped some cool ones that came with Rome.

In all seriousness, to say that EB2 will be worse than EB1 simply because it is on the M2TW platform is simply ridiculous. As far as I can tell, M2TW gives the team, on average, far more to work with in terms of gameplay elements then RTW does. One example off the top of my head is modifiable AI (which is better in vanilla M2TW then it was in vanilla RTW anyways).

I'm certainly NOT a M2TW fanboy, but it makes very little sense to act as if the EB team will not remove or change the annoying features of M2TW when they make EB2, just as they removed or changed the annoying features of RTW... They did it once, why would they not do it this time?

I didn't particularly like RTW before I found EB, but I love EB... Why would this situation be any different?

[Hakomar]

About Med2, how will you include the slow-death thing.
I personally hate it, I like to know when my men are dead immediately likein R:TW, not wait a 2-5 second death animations, then find a quarter of my unit is dead.
The deaths are constant, so when eventually it displays 50 men, you may think I am going to do so and so, but in reality 10 are through their death animation and you don't know.

[HunGeneral]

Let's be frank here, alright. There is no better modification of Rome: Total War than Europa Barbarorum.

I suspect youre right. Actually I'm quite sure its true - the only mod which could even get close to it would be RTR:Grand Campaing (at least quessing from what they have done in the form of fate of empires) - but that will take a while to appear...

When Europa Barbarorum II arrives for M2TW, it will be the best mod for that game.

I sure hope your right about that aswell - it wil defineately be the best mod for MedII set in the Classial age. Dominion of the Sword might become the best Medieval themed one - that will need a while to be realeased aswell....