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    Default Re: javelins too weak?

    Quote Originally Posted by satalexton View Post
    I think the general phenomon in EB is that if something is not 'working' or 'too weak', there's 90% of the time the user ain using it right.

    Even with akonkistai, one can slaughter a unit of done correctly. Mind, these dude are merely your average urban poor given a knife, some pointy sticks and a shoddy shield.

    If you want real javalin throwers, the iberians and getai the ones you should be looking for.
    I don't think that this is a phenomenon of something not working correctly, or being too weak, though. I think that for the most part, javelins are great, they do plenty of damage to most units, if used correctly. The exception to this is against phalanx units. A massed volley of javelins against units in phalanx mode is going to kill maybe two or three men out of a unit with 242 men in it. Let's be honest, that's a little ridiculous. The spears could deflect some missiles, but it's not like phalanxes had forcefields around them that deflected 95% of missiles away. As you say, Komotai are great units, they are one of my favorite low level units in the game, but against units in phalanx mode, their javelins seem to just bounce off. I'm not arguing that they should be devastating phalanx units, but two or three casualties from 200 javelins is putting too much faith in the phalanxes abilities.

    Now, I'm personally fine with leaving this as it is, because there are still plenty of ways to destroy phalanx units, but I don't think it's correct to blame the user in this situation.

    EDIT: These volleys don't even have to hit the phalanx from the front. Even if you flank, throwing javelins at a unit in phalanx mode will garner very few kills.
    Last edited by WinsingtonIII; 12-03-2009 at 17:30.
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