[EB] DEC ONLINE TOURNAMENT!!!!!!!

[mountaingoat]

very good

just wandering what the consensus is with certain units being mercs or not?

first off is Druhtiz Bastarnisku .. they are not listed under any faction and the EB webpage description shows them as eleutheroi in getai region.

second is Cidainh , though they show up as unit listed under the Casse , they are not shown with the Aedui ??

maybe some more to add later.

[Phalanx300]

The Sweboz!

Well the site isn't up too date but I gues to make things simple it might be better to keep things by the site?

[darius_d]

Hi guys,

I don't have, unfortunately, enough free time to engage myself, but will keep watching you.

GLHF!

[Knight of Heaven]

very good

just wandering what the consensus is with certain units being mercs or not?

first off is Druhtiz Bastarnisku .. they are not listed under any faction and the EB webpage description shows them as eleutheroi in getai region.

second is Cidainh , though they show up as unit listed under the Casse , they are not shown with the Aedui ??

maybe some more to add later.

Well for the mercs units, and factional units we cant rely on EB website, becouse i think what they have there is a a list of some units you can recruit as playing that faction. for instance, in the case of the Aedui, they have hellveti phalanx wich isnt factional and is a merc Alied, the arverni can recruit then as well.
My thought is the merc units are the ones you hire in as the general. the one it says mercenary on the name... i belive. :P

[antisocialmunky]

You know for the Sweboz roster, you should allow all the untis on their MP roster not including Celts(but including Celto-Germanics), Bastarnae, and the Lugii. Otherwise its going to be quite boring to play with 7ish units only.

I think you should also reinstate the 33K limit for Romans instead of 36K. Otherwise you see nothing but Pedite spam.

[mountaingoat]

I think you should also reinstate the 33K limit for Romans instead of 36K. Otherwise you see nothing but Pedite spam.

considering this , though i do not think the current team members on Romani would be spamming those units.

*not going to limit the romani to 33k , after running some tests with those units ,for their costs etc if they want to spam them , then whatever. lol

[naiveharry]

I want to join too...
hiero
Koinon Hellenon

[Gabeed]

very good
second is Cidainh , though they show up as unit listed under the Casse , they are not shown with the Aedui ??

That's because the continental Gauls had largely moved on from chariots to cavalry.

Oh, and I'm happily married to my single player campaign with the BI.exe, so I think I'll have to pass on this fine tourney.

[Knight of Heaven]

That's because the continental Gauls had largely moved on from chariots to cavalry.

Oh, and I'm happily married to my single player campaign with the BI.exe, so I think I'll have to pass on this fine tourney.

Well yes but the point is what we considere factional and what we considere mercenary, in multiplayer tournament.
I for me, mercenaries are only the units we buy as mercenaries, for instance the gallic mercenaries, the kretan mercenaries. We cant rely on eb web site, becouse the unit list there isnt a factional list only. The aedui have Curepos, and Golberi Curoas
wich is mercenary in game and multiplayer roster. we cant recruit these units in game, only hire then.

[mountaingoat]

ok well what should we be going off if the EB page is that outdated ? i mean what could be a good reference?

maybe ill go through recruitment viewer and post a list for each faction on here

check the first page as mercs are updated.

[gamegeek2]

Looks fun, but I've never played EB online. Needa do that soon.

[Apázlinemjó]

Hey yo, add me to Swebóz please.

[vartan]

I think you should limit the Romani to 5.3 trillion mnai. If you gave them any more they'd be too powerful...

[Knight of Heaven]

I think you should limit the Romani to 5.3 trillion mnai. If you gave them any more they'd be too powerful...

Doesnt matter they will die like ladies they are. Ladies in red all of then.

[Titus Magnus]

Watch your tounge barbarian, you will feel the glory of rome soon enough.


-Arma tuentur pacem

[m0r1d1n]

"-36K cap(like old tournament)
-Only 1 chevron upgrade per unit (if there is money left over, though no upgrades for Romani due to their cheap units).
-3 Archer units max (this includes Horse archers and slingers)
-No limit for skirmishers
-Max 4 Cav units ( no limits on heavy )
-Max 8 Pike units
-ONLY 2 Merc units(again to keep it simple , all faction units to be taken from https://www.europabarbarorum.com )."

one question pls...these above mentioned limits...they r for each player or the team as a whole??

i'll be joining the groups by today...lookin forward to meeting u on the field General jebivjetar

[mountaingoat]

"-36K cap(like old tournament)
-Only 1 chevron upgrade per unit (if there is money left over, though no upgrades for Romani due to their cheap units).
-3 Archer units max (this includes Horse archers and slingers)
-No limit for skirmishers
-Max 4 Cav units ( no limits on heavy )
-Max 8 Pike units
-ONLY 2 Merc units(again to keep it simple , all faction units to be taken from https://www.europabarbarorum.com )."

one question pls...these above mentioned limits...they r for each player or the team as a whole??

i'll be joining the groups by today...lookin forward to meeting u on the field General jebivjetar

this is for each player , also please read the merc list on front page as i have updated..

[Jebivjetar]

i'll be joining the groups by today...lookin forward to meeting u on the field General jebivjetar

Same here, i'm sure it will be much fun, m0r1d1n

Let's get this thing rollin' !!

[antisocialmunky]

Mmmmm Unlimited Bastarnae. I wish I got Baltic axemen but this should work fine :).

[Silence Hunter]

Hi guys!

I'd love to join, but I'll only be able to play after the 13th of December. GMT+2. If that's ok sign me up as Getai. Lovely falxes

[Apázlinemjó]

Mmmmm Unlimited Bastarnae. I wish I got Baltic axemen but this should work fine :).

Sounds like a plan, lol.

[olly]

Cool. I'll take the last KH place.

[antisocialmunky]

So... does anyone actually know how to play Sweboz?

[vartan]

So... does anyone actually know how to play Sweboz?

I'm guessing the same as Getai, but with more oomph (I hope that's the right word, but of course there's a German word that doesn't have an English translation that can be used to fully explain the power behind the idea).

And why don't you use the list of native units and elites that we compiled in the summer?

[antisocialmunky]

Nah, I can't play them like Getai all that well. The issue is morale, Getai has pretty high morale. Sweboz does not. You could probably Bastarnae spam against Romans to some extent though. Against, Aedui - I don't think they have a chance.

Celts have Morale Up, Morale Down, and Chariots.

[Apázlinemjó]

So... does anyone actually know how to play Sweboz?

AP & Scary infantry based H&A tactics usually work, Dugundiz and Speutagardaz are good as line infantry, Sloxonez, Bastraniská and the swordsmen are dirty cheap flankers. As elites you should recruit Worgozez, they are a must in every Swebóz armies and the Black painted dudes are good too. Sadly the only good archers are the Baltic ones, but they are considered mercenaries now..so if you want to spend your mercenary slots on them...then go on. Swebóz heavy cavalry is pretty good (and expensive too) on the west, however against east European factions, like Makedonia, well it's not a really good idea to use them. So if you want to use cavalry, then it's advised to use the skirmisher one, because they can wear out and outrun almost anything the others can throw at them annnnd they have a high charge bonus, which means they are a decent medium cavalry too. However these are my experiences only, maybe there are some veteran Swebóz players who can inform us about the better methods.

Edit: And if the map has forest, well you win, lol.

[The Celtic Viking]

I still disagree with that decision, but it's not a big deal. Your tournament, your rules, I guess.

[mountaingoat]

No, it's not a problem of me not knowing what to do or anything like that, it's about consistency and keeping the units viable. If the Gaedann have to compete with these other units for those 2 spots, as I said, you might as well just say they can't be used.

That the Aedui didn't field Hellenic hoplites as their main line would be completely inconsistent, because no army fielded elites as their main line either, yet that's still allowed. I'm not even asking for them to be main line infantry anyway, and it's a non sequitur to use the argument that because they'd no longer be counted mercenary, they'd automatically become main line infantry. Besides, the Worogez are obviously mercenaries, and I think you'll agree that they shouldn't be main line infantry for the Sweboz either, yet you've made an exception for them and put them as native.

look man .. i posted my reasons, and made some exceptions as an attempt to keep some kind of "balance" between factions .

i don't care about elites due to the fact that "elite" units cost lots of coin ... and there is no way anyone can effectively field an army of elites in the online tournament with this 36k cap... if someone wants to have 6 elites as their entire force .. then let them... most people are only going to place 2 or 3 in a stack. There is also the fact that many people debate elites (much like the mercs) but the elites are less of a problem IMO.

another reason for the elites ,is that we are attempting to keep some kind of loosely historically portrayed armies here ..and from the people i have seen join so far (and i have played against a fair few of them) i doubt they are really going to be spamming any units.

the Aedui / Celts have such a broad pool to recruit from it makes things a little unbalanced for them , with their fine line between merc and native units i may of added a few more units into their merc pool for the sake of balancing things out ..

if you would like to continue this discussion or feel that the Gaedann should be removed from the merc pool after reading this , then please PM me.

Edit: And if the map has forest, well you win, lol.

would like to have home maps for each faction but without having it them too one sided , so we can have home and away battles.. if you have any ideas for the sweboz let me know

[Scipio Africanus]

Hi everybody I would like to join the getai team.Thank you.By the way It's my first EB tournament but I adapt very quickly.Thanks again.

[olly]

Its my first tournament as well so at least someone will, hopefully, be as bad as me. Although an arse kicking from Mountaingoat gave me a lot of food for thought so at least that is something!

So how do we co-ordinate when we play? I'm free any evening from 8pm GMT apart from Tuesday.