delablake 16:01 01-17-2010
wow! looks like Gladiator meets 300
Damn, it looks stupid

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It looks like the worst things combined: 300, Gladiator and the sex aspects of Rome.
Macilrille 16:31 01-17-2010
Nothing wrong with sex. As I have often said, sex is a central part of most people's thoughts, we think about it all the time and engage in it as often as possible. If something is to depict life as it is, we can hardly leave sex out because of prudishness.
Sex just to attract viewers to a non-porn thingie is another thing, will never make me watch anything. Why watch the fake thing? If you want sex, watch porn.
Gladiator

300



OMG! It's ridicule. 300 was a good movie but that! Bad series...
Nawak!
CaesarAugustus 17:25 01-17-2010
I think I vomited a little in my mouth.
Skullheadhq 17:32 01-17-2010
Originally Posted by Genava:
300 was a good movie!
OMG take it back, take it back now!
Horatius 18:34 01-17-2010
No offense but how would any of you know when you haven't seen it?
We all gave Alexander a try (and regretted it).
But anyway I saw some interesting things about it, the gladiator school being owned by a wealthy man who is of humble origins, Spartacus will be depicted as an auxiliary deserter sentenced to slavery in accordance with our ancient sources, it has potential.
Although I do admit the main preview looks like it will be full of blood.
I died a little inside upon watching the preview. What junk...
HunGeneral 21:13 01-17-2010
Well it looked interresting if you ask me - possibly not from the point of historical accuracy (there probeably isn't even any in it althoug we will see...)
Will keep my eyes on it - 300 was enjoyeable (even if not trough the galsses of the Historical fan)
I like the pop up text: "Some stories are written in blood" - reminds me on an AAR somehow...
I think a little sex might fit to the movie: Gladiators were really a central part of most Roman womans fantasies - I even remember to have read about it from some Roman Historian.
Well just see what this will be like....
Macilrille 22:10 01-17-2010
Originally Posted by Horatius:
No offense but how would any of you know when you haven't seen it?
We all gave Alexander a try (and regretted it).
But anyway I saw some interesting things about it, the gladiator school being owned by a wealthy man who is of humble origins, Spartacus will be depicted as an auxiliary deserter sentenced to slavery in accordance with our ancient sources, it has potential.
Although I do admit the main preview looks like it will be full of blood.
I do not mind blood, my favorite movie is Stalingrad...
It is the style I mind. Besides the almost inevitable lack of satisfactory historical accuracy.
Vasiliyi 22:24 01-17-2010
Idk, the story of Spartacus intrigues me. Has anyone else read Howard Fasts "Spartacus"? Id recommend it. Although, im not sure if its "Historically" accurate. But much info do we really have on Spartacus?
Hey you can knock 300, but Gladiator was probably the best film of the last decade. It might not have gone for 100% historical accuracy (though name
any mainstream Ancient Era film that ever has), but was visually stunning, superbly acted and a great script and story......a duel to the death to anyone who disagrees
NikosMaximilian 02:16 01-18-2010
D'oh! That didn't promise much history-wise.
I wonder how long for the scene where a bare-chested Spartacus shouts:
"Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Madness? This is Capua! and I am Spartacus!"
antisocialmunky 02:47 01-18-2010
I dunno, if a movie can pull off what its going for, then I consider it a decent movie. 300 and Watchmen were good movies in that they brought a comic book to life. However one was a rather silly naive story and the other had terrible pacing.
Then there are things like Gladiator where its a simple story with good action and pacing - well executed and well made. One of my favorite movies. :)
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**** Frank Miller. If it weren't for him and his 300, I wouldn't have died inside from that preview.
Gladiators are actually an awesome movie.....
300 is quite good and dramatic, but it has blatant historical incorectness, from purely drama point of view, it hasits own worth... but from historical fan point of view.... it is a bit more than worthless
Originally Posted by :
Gladiators are actually an awesome movie.....
300 is quite good and dramatic, but it has blatant historical incorectness, from purely drama point of view, it hasits own worth... but from historical fan point of view.... it is a bit more than worthless
Yes, I agree. 300 isn't a historical film.
Originally Posted by Genava:
Yes, I agree. 300 isn't a historical film.
LOL you historical geniuses! I love you guys so much. Regarding 300, IIRC it was not meant to be a historical film. So it did not fail, it succeeded in its goal! Good for Frankie. If we want a documentary on Thermopylae I guess we can always watch the History Channel version. IDK, that's a bit dramatic too, haha.
300 is an ethnocentric, racist and propogandic movie by a radicalist neocon who regards everything east of Washington D.C. as a direct threat to his limited views of "freedom", that consist of little more than the "choice" between what kind of toilet paper you want to buy.
But this is politics.
Macilrille 18:40 01-18-2010
Hmmmm... I do not like the turn this is taking- I suspect the derailing that I myself was part of has gone a bit too far and may turn personal. Vartan's comment can be interpreted as deriding or demeaning, and Hax' is far to biased politically. Though I by and large agree, it is not something that should be discussed here at all.
Please guys, restrain yourself.
Or perhaps better if Ludens came by with the padlock...
Horatius 18:54 01-18-2010
Originally Posted by Hax:
300 is an ethnocentric, racist and propogandic movie by a radicalist neocon who regards everything east of Washington D.C. as a direct threat to his limited views of "freedom", that consist of little more than the "choice" between what kind of toilet paper you want to buy.
But this is politics.
300 is a wonderful movie based on a good comic.
Is it historically accurate?
No of course not, like every other movie or series based on history or novels that has any intention of being entertaining it takes liberties, but calling whatever you don't like rascist is idiotic. Especially in the climate of modern Britain and Europe where calling somebody a rascist is equivalent to calling somebody a communist under Mcarthyism in the United States
What's so rascist about the timeless theme of a small collection of freemen standing up to an Empire? Nothing that's what.
You really need to read Aescheylus (sp) before saying ANYTHING else about the Persian Wars, the idea that it was superior political systems that offered freedom that had saved Greece is something the ancient Greeks believed themselves.
Ethnocentric?
Once again you have shown your mindless obedience to the Mullahs of Iran. What ethnicity is the United States? Oh what is that they elected a BLACK president? The horrors of that one nazi ethnicly homogenous nation!!!!!!!!!
Ethnocentric? Since when are the Yanks Greeks? Last I checked the 13 colonies were ours untill we sent a couple of agents to throw em away.
For your information 300 was a great hit in Greece, which is pretty east of Washington, it infact did very well in every European country.
There isn't any hint of any modern politics in 300, any politics from the original comic book is long since dead, and as I said the movie was very faithful to it.
Frankly you don't know what rascist or ethnocentric means, I am willing to bet a hundred pounds if you had to provide the definition without benefit of dictionary you would get it wrong.
You know nothing of pop culture, or current events. Now before embarrasing yourself further by quoting Ahmadinejad I strongly suggest you read the Persians, which depicts Xerxes in a very bad light (much worse then 300, his crimes include spitting on his fathers ghost). Are you claiming that someone who is possibly the greatest playwright of all time was part of a vast zionist neocon conspiracy? If so please report to the nearest mental institution for permanent residence.
Originally Posted by Hax:
300 is an ethnocentric, racist and propogandic movie by a radicalist neocon who regards everything east of Washington D.C. as a direct threat to his limited views of "freedom", that consist of little more than the "choice" between what kind of toilet paper you want to buy.
But this is politics.
And contemporary politics have no place here. Nor do insults, or flame-wars.
Thread closed.
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