Question about a Unit attribute

[WinsingtonIII]

What's this TAB abbreviation I keep hearing?

TAB is just short hand for the Thorakitai Agematos Basilikou (Hellenic Elite Spearmen) of the Arche Seleukia, you know (I'm sure you already do), the extraordinarily heavily armored elite spearmen draped in chain mail. I believe Grade A Beef was merely referencing them as an example of an extremely heavily armored unit against which high lethality lances are the most effective cavalry weapon as opposed to secondaries.

[Grade_A_Beef]

Yeah, just units that rely overmuch on armor, although that of course is not a bad thing.

In any case I managed to find the thread. I'd love to do testing myself, but yeah....I need to understand how Hamachi works, as I'm not really proficient with computers.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...aphract&page=3

[vartan]

TAB is just short hand for the Thorakitai Agematos Basilikou (Hellenic Elite Spearmen) of the Arche Seleukia, you know (I'm sure you already do), the extraordinarily heavily armored elite spearmen draped in chain mail. I believe Grade A Beef was merely referencing them as an example of an extremely heavily armored unit against which high lethality lances are the most effective cavalry weapon as opposed to secondaries.

I can imagine how the lethality would come in handy (even if it's half attack, it's more than double lethality, but a bit slower, all in all perhaps a BIT better). TABs are a *****.

Yeah, just units that rely overmuch on armor, although that of course is not a bad thing.

In any case I managed to find the thread. I'd love to do testing myself, but yeah....I need to understand how Hamachi works, as I'm not really proficient with computers.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...aphract&page=3

Don't limit yourself. Do your homework, and help us out.

[ziegenpeter]

I still can't believe it! I always thought mace, axe and kopis were best against tanks. So you actually should only switch to it when when fighting lighter foes?

[vartan]

I still can't believe it! I always thought mace, axe and kopis were best against tanks. So you actually should only switch to it when when fighting lighter foes?

No, switch to it when fighting humans online as a form of consistency, historicity, etiquette, courtesy, respect, and because RTW doesn't automatically switch to secondaries (I've heard M2TW automatically switches to secondaries, so EBII should solve this issue for those who still want to bend the unwritten law.)

[HunGeneral]

I've heard M2TW automatically switches to secondaries, so EBII should solve this issue for those who still want to bend the unwritten law.

I can't confirm it for sure, but I think it is so - atleast in my experience on MedII the cavalry always switch to there secondary arms in battle (even Knights and other heavy cavalry - even if there charge isn't succesful they unshed there swords if locked up in meele.)

[vartan]

I can't confirm it for sure, but I think it is so - atleast in my experience on MedII the cavalry always switch to there secondary arms in battle (even Knights and other heavy cavalry - even if there charge isn't succesful they unshed there swords if locked up in meele.)

That's good, and I hope they die easier when trying to retreat for another charge...RTW is ridiculous sometimes.

[HunGeneral]

That's good, and I hope they die easier when trying to retreat for another charge...RTW is ridiculous sometimes.

I think in MedII they don't even try to retreat for another charge - or atleats in my campaings they never got that far. Howevevr if you do oder cavalry to fall back from a cavalry meele or
try to pull them out from the middle of an infanry formation then they WILL suffer loses (and the AI sometimes follows them and tries not to leave time for the horsemen to regroup).

[ziegenpeter]

No, switch to it when fighting humans online as a form of consistency, historicity, etiquette, courtesy, respect, and because RTW doesn't automatically switch to secondaries (I've heard M2TW automatically switches to secondaries, so EBII should solve this issue for those who still want to bend the unwritten law.)

Well but in campaign, if I'd seek for efficiency...?

[vartan]

Well but in campaign, if I'd seek for efficiency...?

In campaign stick to the lance for cryin' out loud man. Give the AI a good beating it deserves.