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    I agree that I don't expect much to result directly from the SOTU, but it strongly reinforced my support of Obama. That was the first time I've ever watched a SOTU and felt like the speaker actually understood what the country needs. It might just be talk, but Obama makes be believe that he actually understands our domestic problems and is fighting to solve them. One of the things that struck me about that speech was that it came across strongly as POTUS criticizing both political parties for playing the political game without caring about the impact on the country. I think a lot of Americans are pleased to see a POTUS scold the legislative branch for embodying everything everyone hates about politicians. Obama still feels like a President who's more of a citizen than a politician. That alone is extremely welcome.

    Will it change anything? Probably not, but Obama continues to keep the dim light of hope alive that our government will start working properly at some point in the future.
    It is a shame that Obama doesn't actually write any of his own speeches, just knowing that fact admittedly makes me die a little on the inside, but I agree with your points, however manufactured they might be.
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    It is a shame that Obama doesn't actually write any of his own speeches...
    I thought it was standard practice these days to use "professionals" to write speeches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    It is a shame that Obama doesn't actually write any of his own speeches, just knowing that fact admittedly makes me die a little on the inside [...]
    Say wha? According to most credible reports, Obama does more of his own writing than any President in recent memory. Where do these nonsense memes come from?

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    Say wha? According to most credible reports, Obama does more of his own writing than any President in recent memory. Where do these nonsense memes come from?
    Well, I know for a fact Jon Favreau wrote Obama's inaugural address and many other high-profile ones. It wasn't Obama who wrote it himself.
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    Well, I know for a fact Jon Favreau wrote Obama's inaugural address and many other high-profile ones. It wasn't Obama who wrote it himself.
    Read the article I linked. It's a respectable piece of reporting, not some hack work. If you believe any of the named, on-the-record sources in it, Obama does a lot of his own writing. His make-or-break race speech after the Revered Wright explosion, for example, was almost entirely him. Favreau's work was dropped, and he was relegated to typing what the candidate said and doing some line-edits.

    There are plenty of legitimate places to ding Obama, but to go at him about writing is borderline insane. He's one of the very few politicians to have actually written his own books, and all reports from within his campaign and admin suggest that he does much more of his own writing than any president in the last thirty years.
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    Favreau's work was dropped, and he was relegated to typing what the candidate said and doing some line-edits.
    Which is a shame, I really want to hear Obama say, "Vegas, baby. Vegas."
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    I am def no Obama fan-boy... In fact, I think he has been pretty damn meaningless thus far.

    But to bash him about speaches is just....

    As mentioned:

    1) one of very few who has written his own book.
    2) one of very few actually having anything to do, at all, with his speaches. If you think GWB did more writing than Obama, as an example, I will have to go Triebsman on you -
    3. True, he doesnt write everything on his own, he still choose what to use though, and edits it. Most presidents barely does even that.

    Next point please.
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    1) one of very few who has written his own book.
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    Say wha? According to most credible reports, Obama does more of his own writing than any President in recent memory. Where do these nonsense memes come from?
    He also heals lepers, births unicorns, and snorts pixie dust. I'd LOVE to see this man's college transcripts and other important documents to support his self, media, and worshippers claimed genius but they won't release them. Why is that?
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    I'd LOVE to see this man's college transcripts and other important documents to support his self, media, and worshippers claimed genius but they won't release them. Why is that?
    What do his college transcripts have to do with him authoring his two books and a lot of his own speeches? Did you even glance at the link I provided? It's not morning anymore, so you're required to make some tiny amount of sense.

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    He also heals lepers, births unicorns, and snorts pixie dust.
    I thought he rode unicorns. He may snort lepers as well, I can't verify my sources on that, but I'm pretty sure he rides unicorns.
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    Sorry, double posted via a poorly chosen refresh.
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