Not for all units anyway. Some eastern states used companies of men quantified in the decimal system, while I think the Romans used some...base 12 system? The number 480 comes to mind for some reason. So the ratios I believe vary depending on the unit sizes in the game and what you believe to be the actual quantitative division of men in the ancient armies in question.
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171 BCE, playing as the Arverni
I've tried to play this one slowly-ish, for a Gallic campaign anyway. It's a long time since I started this campaign, but from what I remember (it's what I usually do anyway) I used my starting armies to take Bibracte, possibly also Avaricum early. Then waiting a while as the money slooowly trickles back, before kicking the Aedui out of Transalpine Gaul, but not defeating them. The unification of Gaul didn't come until even later than that, when the Lusotannans, emboldened by their complete conquest of Iberia moved up the western coast and finally attacking me. I kicked them out of Gaul and conquered as far as Emporion and Vellica. Emporion itself I gave complete autonomy, and they decided to join the Koinon Hellenon, whom I promptly allied with. I managed to gain a cease fire with the Lusotannans as well by offering them Vellica back, and they've honoured it so far. As such I haven't had any need for a large garrison there, relying instead of the natural border that the mountains make and the good people of Emporion to do their bit. To help them with this I supply them both with money and with men.
About the same time as I pushed the Lusotannans out of Gaul the Sweboz crossed the Rhine and tried to take over my eastern holdings. After a long and arduous fight, I have now pushed them back over it, and am content at that. They still try crossing it now and again, but I keep pushing them back.
Down in Cisalpine Gaul things are going back and forth. At first I used the Aedui as a buffer state, even going so far as taking a break in our feud to unite against the Romani. Despite this, they were eventually defeated by the Romans and I had to step in myself. I've had to fight off many a siege now, and with help from the Ligurians I've been able to hold on for now. Attrition rates are high, though.
The eastern border is not much better. The local Celtic tribes have allied with the Romans and are coming at me in force, supplanted by Roman, Bastarnae, Scythian, Germanic as well as Illyrian support. (That's how I roleplay it - though it's Rome on paper, most of their units here are actually Celts.)
Basically, I'm just playing defensively right now, taking a break from actively conquering places. I might make an exception for Ak-Ink, though, just to fulfill my promises to the Epeirotes... dead though they may be.![]()
ye whats the deal with that Ak-Ink and Vindobalum (or sumthing) promise you make the Epirotes. I accepted, got the alliance, sent an army, i get there siege the place, an epirote army pops up, i get sallied and attacked and the epirotes dont even help me out there... while im right next to them. really weird. Anyway the rebel army is way to big for my army to take alone (so i did a little cheat to get a catapult to take down the walls) i assault the city and now the epirotes do help. i take the town with huge losses on all sides and then what?... do i have to take only one? or both because i then moved to Ak-Ink and no army popped up to help me. neither did i get any message of thank you or whatever from the epirotes...
We do not sow.
I'm not completely sure, but when it spawns in mid-turn, is there on the map, but not present to fight (don't know better words to explain it XD)...
The alliance is pretty much a token and the scripted army is there to help you, but there's nothing to gain from the endeavour...i take the town with huge losses on all sides and then what?
Except, of course, the two settlements themselves. :p
It's really just an RP thing.
EB 1.2, M/M, Alex.exe with Jirisys' Megamod (movement points reduced back to normal value)
EDIT: the year is 190 by the way....
Has been a rather interesting campaign so far. Pontos held almost everything in Makedonia, Illyria, Thracia etc that is roman possession now (except Demetrias, Athenai and Chalkis which were still makedonian possession) and attacked Italy via sea. For about 5 years I managed to not fight back in their lands but only defended Taras, Arpi and Patavium, but in the end I was so fed up that I gathered four polybian legions (= 2 fullstacks; a legion consists of 1 FM, 1 Velites, 2 Hastati, 2 Principes, 1 Triarii and 3 allied units, I try to standardize them with 1 Pedites E., 1 Campanian Cavalry and 1 Toxotai or Sotoroas) and invaded Illyria.
Within 15 years I managed to fight my way down to Byzantion (got attacked by my allies, the Makedonians as soon as we shared a border so I took the chance and "liberated" the last parts of Graecia as well...).
After taking Byzantion I FD'ed a ceasefire with Pontos (mainly because the republic wouldn't be able to deliver any decisive blows in Asia Minor anyway, in polybian times there aren't allowed more than 8 legions ...)
Lusos, Sweboz and Carthage are allied with me (no FD there, the Pontos ceasefire was the only cheat I ever used in this campaign, I didn't help or hinder any other faction at all).
Aedui are the only faction I'm at war with at the moment, but that will most probably change soon, I'm sharing a border with the Ptolemaioi (Byzantion - Pergamon).
And they have a lot of stacks in Asia Minor...
Last edited by Shadowwalker; 03-04-2012 at 19:32.
Finished EB Campaigns: Kart-Hadast 1.0/1.2 | Pontos 1.1 | Arche Seleukeia 1.2 | Hayasdan 1.2 | Sab'yn 1.2 | Makedonia 1.2 (Alex)
Lost Campaigns(1.2, Alex. exe): Getai | Sab'Yn
Ongoing campaigns (1.2): SPQR (110 BC) | Sab'yn (217 BC) | Pontos (215 BC)
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I finally discovered how to use the print screen so here it is:
Seleucid on H campaign/ Medium Battles
Situation on at the death of the first great King Theodoros:
My second Great King Nikeratos
The empire before the death of Cleon the Great who sacked every major city in spain and western gaul before giving them to lusos (who backstabbed me)
My fourth King Damdas, who although did not conquer as much as the other kings, he did manage to create a stable border for the war in northern europe
My current King, the young Dikalros, who has come to iberia to teach those lusos a lesson
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Last edited by seleucid empire; 03-06-2012 at 06:35.
It seems you are going for a World Domination seleucid empire. Any reason why you have not bothered with Kart-Hadast?
Using BI.exe, VH/M difficulties.
Year is 213 BCE, playing as Epeiros. I rushed my first 15 years or so, destroying Makedonia, pushing Koinon Hellenon out of Greece (as well as the conquest of Crete) and then driving the Romans all the way to Segesta and Bononia with Pyrrhos. The reign under Ptolemaios Aiakides was very much a consolidate and gradual expansion. The Romans were conquered in northern Italy (Carthage delivered the killing blow taking back Corsica) while the Seleukid holdings in western Anatolia under Ptolemaios. Unfortunately at this time, Ptolemaic Egypt made a big push from Phoenicia and conquered Antiocheia, Tarsos, and Side in quick succession and despite the 30 years of peace and alliance, thanks to the wonderful AI, war was immediately declared. Ptolemaios dies and Pyrrikhos Aiakides takes the reign.
I roleplayed Pyrrhikhos as a very conservative king. The expansion in Asia Minor was very gradual during his reign. This time period also saw a perplexing declaration of war by Carthage who landed a full stack near Rome (at this time both Messana and Syrakousai belonged to the Eleutheroi so we had no land boundaries). As a result, I conquered Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica in quick succession. I then land a stack near Karthage and take the city as well as Atiqa. Since my ability to recruit in Carthaginean homelands is almost non-existent and I have no interest in their lands, I've only held onto Atiqa and Karthage while having a stack of sea-faring soldiers conquer coastal cities, raze the buildings, and then leave. During this same time period, the Getai, with whom I had shared a border for 40 years and been allies with them throughout that time, suddenly declared war on me but I made short work of them with one stack of soldiers raised in Greece and Epeiros.
Hagesias Aiakides ascends the Epeirote throne and he's far more ambitious than his uncle. The sea-faring stack which has devastated Karthage's coastal towns conquered both Paraitonion and Alexandreia. Basileus Hagesias sends Hermaeus Herakleotes, a former Pontic general (with 8 standing stars, 10 when he attacks) renown for his countless defenses of Tarsos against the Selekids and the Ptolemaioi, on a warpath where he conquers Antiocheia, Phoenicia, Assyria, and Sophene and that's where we're at.
In this same game, the Arverni are a client state of Lusotannia. Also of interest, Saka Rauka and Pahlava are client kingdoms of Baktria. Pahlava barely became a client kingdom a few turns ago so I'm eager to see if Baktria finally turns their attention to the Seleukids. I'd love to eventually meet them in the middle and fight over Persis and Media.
Last edited by edgaraurelius; 03-06-2012 at 08:38. Reason: forgot to mention difficulty and BI.exe
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