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    Well I tried a couple of them ( Illipa, Gergovia, Getia, Bibracte and Tigranocerta) and it seems that you have done a really good job.
    However, I don't know if I remember correctly but Scipio Africanus began his campaign in Spain with a 1/6 cavalry to infantry ratio. Somehow I believe that he had more horsemen who did not play a major part in the battle though. Also I remember having read that he placed his Hastati in the middle flanked by the Principes on the left (or was it right) and the triarri with allies on the other flank and his velites with his horses. I can't remember any reference of the extraordinarii although this could mean that the were never ordered to attack.
    Concerning Tigranocerta I am pretty sure that Tigranes II had all of his army jampacked on a hill next to the city, had left the river unguarded and legend has it that because his messangers were frightened to tell him that Lucullus had crossed the river ( he had slain the ones who told him that the romans had invaded his kingdom) he was surrounded by the Romans before he was able to form his troops to defend properly ( it might have been Osprey though, so I doubt the historical accuracy in that).
    Finally, you did a really good job on Bibracte. You got both the landscape and the two forces spot on ( at least according to Caesar). So far I ejoed this one the most.

    I may have sounded a bit like a critical jerk. I do not mean to demotivate you. On the contrary, I congratulate you for the time you spent working on this battle pack and I hope that you will come up with more in the future.

    Please accept this for your effort. Cheers!

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    Indeed thank you very much... Can't wait to play them
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    Interesting, downloading right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fraoula View Post
    Well I tried a couple of them ( Illipa, Gergovia, Getia, Bibracte and Tigranocerta) and it seems that you have done a really good job.
    However, I don't know if I remember correctly but Scipio Africanus began his campaign in Spain with a 1/6 cavalry to infantry ratio. Somehow I believe that he had more horsemen who did not play a major part in the battle though. Also I remember having read that he placed his Hastati in the middle flanked by the Principes on the left (or was it right) and the triarri with allies on the other flank and his velites with his horses. I can't remember any reference of the extraordinarii although this could mean that the were never ordered to attack.
    Concerning Tigranocerta I am pretty sure that Tigranes II had all of his army jampacked on a hill next to the city, had left the river unguarded and legend has it that because his messangers were frightened to tell him that Lucullus had crossed the river ( he had slain the ones who told him that the romans had invaded his kingdom) he was surrounded by the Romans before he was able to form his troops to defend properly ( it might have been Osprey though, so I doubt the historical accuracy in that).
    Finally, you did a really good job on Bibracte. You got both the landscape and the two forces spot on ( at least according to Caesar). So far I ejoed this one the most.

    I may have sounded a bit like a critical jerk. I do not mean to demotivate you. On the contrary, I congratulate you for the time you spent working on this battle pack and I hope that you will come up with more in the future.

    Please accept this for your effort. Cheers!
    Concerning Ilipa, this is a new info to me. Concerning Tigranocerta, I'm aware of everything you mentioned, but I had to work with RTW AI since I don't know how to script them to behave that way (I did tried to, but it didn't came out right so I gave it up).
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    Now that I looked into it again Polybius states that the allies ( he doesn't specify socii or spanish) were in the center with the roman infantry flanking them unlike to chessboard formation often used by generals at this time. Still I had tried creating a few battles myself (on vanilla) but could't make the enemy attack me in a solid formation (they rotated like idiots dying to missle fire) so seeing that the sauromatae lancers charged me on the flank in Getia is really something. Did you script that or was it random?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fraoula View Post
    Now that I looked into it again Polybius states that the allies ( he doesn't specify socii or spanish) were in the center with the roman infantry flanking them unlike to chessboard formation often used by generals at this time. Still I had tried creating a few battles myself (on vanilla) but could't make the enemy attack me in a solid formation (they rotated like idiots dying to missle fire) so seeing that the sauromatae lancers charged me on the flank in Getia is really something. Did you script that or was it random?
    Na, there is no script in that battle so it was random.

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    So how does one go about making a historical battle anyway? Did it take you long? or is it simple a matter of choosing a battle location, placing troops, and that's that? like in the battle_editor? The original HB I saw in vanilla RTW had cinematics, where there would be movement and some battle before pausing and continuing. (P.S. have yet to try these HB's that you uploaded so nicely) [P.S.S. would provide you a balloon but am worried about lessening the practical value of said balloon].
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    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    So how does one go about making a historical battle anyway? Did it take you long? or is it simple a matter of choosing a battle location, placing troops, and that's that? like in the battle_editor? The original HB I saw in vanilla RTW had cinematics, where there would be movement and some battle before pausing and continuing. (P.S. have yet to try these HB's that you uploaded so nicely) [P.S.S. would provide you a balloon but am worried about lessening the practical value of said balloon].
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=299823

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    Default Re: New Historical Battles pack realesed

    Since this is not the work of the EB team, I am moving it to the unofficial submod forum. Nice work, though.
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