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    Default Re: Treaty of Versailles - Modern Reappraisal

    Since I see nothing new added to the discussion perhaps I will throw something.

    What do you think about possible conflict between in 1919?

    At that time the war could still return and I wonder how long would it last and indeed if Germany were in any condition to fight at all.








    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I have no doubt your knowledge on this issue trumps mine, my post wasn't even directed towards you to begin with merley a playful jab against krook and PJ seemingly endless fight.
    I've noticed, but since there are more Poles here than Krook you could see this coming.
    Plust I enjoy it from time to time. [insert overused and somehow bored, but still very much diabolical laugher]


    @Prince Cobra

    Just to add something about the division of Poland. Poland was divided because: Russia, Prussia and Austria were getting stronger and more expansionist while Poland (indeed a power with potential) was suffering by its weird model of electing each of its kings (the HRE model). The reluctance of the large aristocratic families to obbey one dynasty made them try to find Kings from all over Europe each time the previous King died. This constant instability and the rivalry of the different aristocratic families may explain why Poland became so weak that it finally fell victim to its neighbours.
    Since this is very much off-topic I only marked points which I would question.

    One point - aritocracy ceased to exist in 1505 in Poland, de facto it still was there, but with numerous shifts and changes, but de iure it appeared only... after the partitions because it existed in the three powers.

    In addition not weakness doomed Poland at that time, but atttempts to reform the satte which was seen by the three countries as dangerous.
    Without those attempts the country would survive as another sick man of Europe of that period together with the Ottomans, the Netherlands, Spain, Venice etc.

    But what survival it would be... better die trying.
    Last edited by cegorach; 04-21-2010 at 17:44.

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