Two Pontos questions.

**Sarkiss** · 03-02-2010, 09:46

actually, iirc, Pontos was never penetrated by Alexander. as of language i thought they speak Greek in game, and so do the Armenians?

**fraoula** · 03-02-2010, 11:48

Originally Posted by Sarkiss

actually, iirc, Pontos was never penetrated by Alexander. as of language i thought they speak Greek in game, and so do the Armenians?

Of course they were not penetrated by Alexander. I said "conquered" because they accepted Alexander as their conqueror-liberator pretty much like the Judeans or the Egyptians.
However they do not give orders in Greek. If you select the Gen. Bodyguard they speak in Persian(?) even after the Pontikoi Strategoi reform. Same for the Armenians altough that is not wrong.

**vartan** · 03-03-2010, 01:57

Originally Posted by fraoula

Of course they were not penetrated by Alexander. I said "conquered" because they accepted Alexander as their conqueror-liberator pretty much like the Judeans or the Egyptians.
However they do not give orders in Greek. If you select the Gen. Bodyguard they speak in Persian(?) even after the Pontikoi Strategoi reform. Same for the Armenians altough that is not wrong.

As heirs to the Achaemenid (SP?) throne, these two aforementioned factions rightfully speak Persian when you click on their bodyguards.

**artavazd** · 03-03-2010, 02:37

Originally Posted by fraoula

Of course they were not penetrated by Alexander. I said "conquered" because they accepted Alexander as their conqueror-liberator pretty much like the Judeans or the Egyptians.
However they do not give orders in Greek. If you select the Gen. Bodyguard they speak in Persian(?) even after the Pontikoi Strategoi reform. Same for the Armenians altough that is not wrong.

Yes it is wrong. Armenians are not Persian, and do not speak Farsi. Armenians speak Armenian, which is an independent branch of the Indo-European language tree, with the closest relative being Greek. The reason they speak Farsi in the game, is because it is a place holder until We finish off an Armenian voice mod (which foot and I had been working on before EB1 was released)

**vartan** · 03-03-2010, 05:20

Originally Posted by artavazd

Yes it is wrong. Armenians are not Persian, and do not speak Farsi. Armenians speak Armenian, which is an independent branch of the Indo-European language tree, with the closest relative being Greek. The reason they speak Farsi in the game, is because it is a place holder until We finish off an Armenian voice mod (which foot and I had been working on before EB1 was released)

Arto have you two finished that by the way? I was wondering if it was going to be released...

**artavazd** · 03-03-2010, 05:23

Originally Posted by vartan

Arto have you two finished that by the way? I was wondering if it was going to be released...

most likely for EB2

**vartan** · 03-03-2010, 05:25

Originally Posted by artavazd

most likely for EB2

Thanks axper. Looking forward to it. (It's about time we hear something familiar xD )

**artavazd** · 03-03-2010, 05:31

Originally Posted by vartan

Thanks axper. Looking forward to it. (It's about time we hear something familiar xD )

I know. I just dont want people on this forum to be mislead and think that the Farsi (language of the Persians) is the native tounge of Armenians. Hopefuly people read my post and understand that it is just a placeholder :)

**Sarkiss** · 03-04-2010, 01:09

Originally Posted by artavazd

most likely for EB2

aye! what would it be, grakan, ashkharabar? or can you make it grabar by any chance?

vartan, why do you write axper, when it should be akhper? just curios. i've seen that the same way nakharar, gets written as naxarar. that make things more confusing for those who dont speak the language and isnt correct.

**vartan** · 03-04-2010, 01:23

Originally Posted by Sarkiss

vartan, why do you write axper, when it should be akhper? just curios. i've seen that the same way nakharar, gets written as naxarar. that make things more confusing for those who dont speak the language and isnt correct.

It is for those that speak. I don't direct my transliteration at non-Hayeren speakers. And the c represents ts, and x represents kh, and so on. Armenian speakers have no problem recognizing this, and this is the most common form of IM for us online. It's no problem though, as it is by and for Armenian speakers.

**artavazd** · 03-04-2010, 02:27

Originally Posted by Sarkiss

aye! what would it be, grakan, ashkharabar? or can you make it grabar by any chance?

vartan, why do you write axper, when it should be akhper? just curios. i've seen that the same way nakharar, gets written as naxarar. that make things more confusing for those who dont speak the language and isnt correct.

By grakan, u mean Grapar (Classical). Well I dont know Classical Armenian. Its like what Latin is to Italian. Most likely itll be in modern Armenian

**Sarkiss** · 03-04-2010, 01:23

Originally Posted by fraoula

Of course they were not penetrated by Alexander. I said "conquered" because they accepted Alexander as their conqueror-liberator pretty much like the Judeans or the Egyptians.

i said penetrated for a reason for that would involve a deeper degree of influence. he did not penetrate into Armenia either, it was ruled by proxy and "conquered" only on paper, so to speak. local dynasts remain in power and no foreign garrisons were stationed etc. that in its turn did not have the same after effect as we can observe in Persia itself were large Greek migration occured and communities intyermingled and cultures influenced each other to a considerable degree and so on and so forth.