Two Pontos questions.

**Sarkiss** · 03-04-2010, 01:09

Originally Posted by artavazd

most likely for EB2

aye! what would it be, grakan, ashkharabar? or can you make it grabar by any chance?

vartan, why do you write axper, when it should be akhper? just curios. i've seen that the same way nakharar, gets written as naxarar. that make things more confusing for those who dont speak the language and isnt correct.

**vartan** · 03-04-2010, 01:23

Originally Posted by Sarkiss

vartan, why do you write axper, when it should be akhper? just curios. i've seen that the same way nakharar, gets written as naxarar. that make things more confusing for those who dont speak the language and isnt correct.

It is for those that speak. I don't direct my transliteration at non-Hayeren speakers. And the c represents ts, and x represents kh, and so on. Armenian speakers have no problem recognizing this, and this is the most common form of IM for us online. It's no problem though, as it is by and for Armenian speakers.

**artavazd** · 03-04-2010, 02:27

Originally Posted by Sarkiss

aye! what would it be, grakan, ashkharabar? or can you make it grabar by any chance?

vartan, why do you write axper, when it should be akhper? just curios. i've seen that the same way nakharar, gets written as naxarar. that make things more confusing for those who dont speak the language and isnt correct.

By grakan, u mean Grapar (Classical). Well I dont know Classical Armenian. Its like what Latin is to Italian. Most likely itll be in modern Armenian

**vartan** · 03-04-2010, 06:48

Originally Posted by artavazd

By grakan, u mean Grapar (Classical). Well I dont know Classical Armenian. Its like what Latin is to Italian. Most likely itll be in modern Armenian

No problem with that. Just find someone who speaks Eastern Armenian and you're set (of course, because of the adaptation of the unaspirated consonant sounds from the surrounding Caucasians that was complete by the time of EB).

**artavazd** · 03-04-2010, 08:32

Originally Posted by vartan

No problem with that. Just find someone who speaks Eastern Armenian and you're set (of course, because of the adaptation of the unaspirated consonant sounds from the surrounding Caucasians that was complete by the time of EB).

I speak Eastern Armenian. Well unaspirated consonant sounds exist in classical Armenian, independent of its existence in Caucasian languages. The Western Armenian dialect (in which unaspirated consonants dont exist) was formed much later during the Cilician period. Western Armenian can be looked at as the latinization of the Armenian language (Cilician Armenia had a lot of contact with the Crusaders).

**vartan** · 03-04-2010, 18:08

Originally Posted by artavazd

I speak Eastern Armenian. Well unaspirated consonant sounds exist in classical Armenian, independent of its existence in Caucasian languages. The Western Armenian dialect (in which unaspirated consonants dont exist) was formed much later during the Cilician period. Western Armenian can be looked at as the latinization of the Armenian language (Cilician Armenia had a lot of contact with the Crusaders).

Yeah I know, same here. I was suspecting you were Eastern by your name. I just had to make sure!