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    Who can guess how the above screenshot came about? Just an idea for a game on the EB forum, whoever guesses correctly then posts their own picture and so on.

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    1. AutoCalc Craziness?

    2. AI sucks at siege battles?

    3. console autowin?

    4. sometimes when I'm in a battle and I exit, it says "if you leave now, you will lose the battle" - I exit, and magically it says I won instead of losing, with the enemy suffering heavy casulties
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    Never seen that happen. He probably ran around the map until he won like Bennie Hill.
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    1063 + 874 doesn't equal 2083

    I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urg View Post
    1063 + 874 doesn't equal 2083
    That's your big clue right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urg View Post
    1063 + 874 doesn't equal 2083
    I'm not sure.
    Friendly fire on the part of the AI, or the AI units drowned while crossing a bridge/river ? Or they were massacred by tower archers in a siege battle... (which the computer doesn't count as anyone's kills, I believe)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intranetusa View Post
    Friendly fire on the part of the AI, or the AI units drowned while crossing a bridge/river ? Or they were massacred by tower archers in a siege battle... (which the computer doesn't count as anyone's kills, I believe)
    They are counted IIRC. Siege battles seems to be the case, I remember times where the computer would deploy his army before the towers, I pressed triple speed and relaxed..

    I don't know the difference though, it should be friendly fire, ballistas horribly gone wrong maybe?

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    How about you cut the screen? There was another army around?
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    what intrigues me is the "average victory"
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    Default Re: The "What happened there?" game.

    A few of you are close, you need to mention a certain unit.

    Quote Originally Posted by anubis88 View Post
    How about you cut the screen? There was another army around?
    No other armies apart from the two in the results. There was no reason in particular to crop the shot, I have just done it so often for AARs I did it automatically.
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    Ιt's a siege battle which involved the AI stupidly marching his troops along walls. Possibly extremely low-tier units (apeleutheroi???) cut down in droves by Cnaeus Cornelius Scipio Asina who at some point slew the enemy general (Hamalcar). After that the Carthaginians fled the battlefield rescuing a large part of their army...
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    Some correct, most wrong.

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    Mass routing at the walls after some died, and the general pursued the soldiers

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    single Eqvites Consvlares unit guarding a city with large wall against tons of Carthaginian hordes, when they try to scale with siege tower, some tower was broken (explain the "missing" numbers). After that, they try to run one by one toward the down side of the wall, and the Eqvites got easy time picking them one by one....

    Right?

    And time up.... you win average victory... it was all just pretty 45 minutes, you could sit back and relax with triple speed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    Right?
    Nope.

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    And time up.... you win average victory... it was all just pretty 45 minutes, you could sit back and relax with triple speed
    I always play without a time limit.
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    Why the hell is it an avarage victory? It should be heroic by any standards
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    Default Re: The "What happened there?" game.

    they've been killed by your towers during a siege, as the AI is intelligent ehough to sit at the feet of your walls and get killed... and while they go away, you sally forth with your cav, just to attract them once more to your towers, and they get decimated... is that it?
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    There is one vital element everybody is missing, which is the reason I was able to kill so many, and why the enemy dead numbers don't add up. My AAR (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...c-A-Romani-AAR) should give you a clue where the battle took place, think of the make up of the enemy army.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Urg View Post
    1063 + 874 doesn't equal 2083

    I'm not sure.
    The thing with the results screens is that they never depict friendly fire. Friendly fire isn't a "kill" on the screen as that only accounts for ENEMY killed. How much of the dead come from friendly fire, and how much from the Roman general...time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    There is one vital element everybody is missing, which is the reason I was able to kill so many, and why the enemy dead numbers don't add up. My AAR (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...c-A-Romani-AAR) should give you a clue where the battle took place, think of the make up of the enemy army.

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    The 53 are only the Equites Consulares, of the faction leader, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrius
    Oh my god, i think that is the first time in human history that someone cares to explain an acronym that people expect everybody to know in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    At the walls of Syracuse?

    The 53 are only the Equites Consulares, of the faction leader, right?

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    Yup, well he isn't faction leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    Yup, well he isn't faction leader.
    Faction heir?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinsingtonIII View Post
    Faction heir?
    No.

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    Large unit size...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    Large unit size...
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    John is such a tease!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    John is such a tease!
    I bet you say that to all the boys.

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    I bet you say that to all the boys.
    LOL No comment!
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    Speaking of friendly fire and Karthadastim, my guess is that they besieged one of the Romani cities, guarded by a FM with his bodyguards, and the Karthadastim had a unit of elephants in their army. Then the elephants, being under fire by the towers, run amok and there's your friendly fire! The rest is already mentioned by previous posters.
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    Yay we have a wiener! Noble Wrath with his fourth post in sixteen months wins.

    I had my Consular army in a nice position in central Sicily awaiting the First Punic War deciding big Sicilian battle that always seems to happen. Went slightly differently this time (probably because I hadn't left Syracuse until after the war as I usual do) they marched past my army and assaulted Syracuse with their elephants. Syracuse, a city with huge stone walls. The army split into two and assaulted a diffferent gate, the spearmen lined up behind the elephants within range of the towers. One by one the elephants walked up to the gates and were killed by boling oil. Eventually they went berserk, back through the ranks of the spearmen, hence the "friendly trampling" The elephants went for a little dance off the map, taking ages to actually rout, letting my towers kill even more of the spearmen.

    I think the reason for the average victory was the fact my army didn't actually kill anyone...

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