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    Don't think there is any point. Most of the peoples knew roughly how the map was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krusader View Post
    Don't think there is any point. Most of the peoples knew roughly how the map was.
    The Gauls knew where India was?
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    The Gauls knew where India was?
    They should know it because their Druids often drink tea together with Indian Yogis in the astral plane...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    They should know it because their Druids often drink tea together with Indian Yogis in the astral plane...
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    The Gauls knew where India was?
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    Welcome to the org!

    I think what they meant to say is that making the map black would add little to the game, only being extra work to do. In EB I already the factions know the place of several cities of the map, depending of which areas they knew about (the greeks for example know about most of their old mediterranean colonies). I think it was quite well done, because for the ai it doesn´t matter (the ai is all knowing), but for the player he has to explore a bit to see where the cities are placed, but the rough shape of the map is already there present. Imho having the map blacked out would be hardly a needed feature, adding very litle to the game. Anyway i suppose it could be added later as a submod or in a later release, i understand it sort of makes sense (for example, as carthage exploring the british isles) but it hardly something that improves the game much.

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    I don't think that this is bad idea if we see it through Hellenic or Roman eyes. Some of their geographic knowledge is documented.

    However, how would we guess what was the world view in 272BC for the Sauromatae, Casse, Saba, Saka, Boii, Sweboz, etc? It would be a very arbitrary decision.

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    a bit of blackmap far away from the starting position would be quite nice (as mentioned british isles blacked out(or just the southern coastline visible) for most factions) and India obscured for many others. what would be fun aswell: factions with rich trade could have the map "discovered" along great trade routes, whereas the most of the area would still be black so you have rough guidlines where to go but are always exposed to unpleasant supprises along the way. this would make spies even more valuable.

    still It's not as important as many other things that are part of EB2 If I were to compile the schedule I would give this a VERY low Priority somewhere with the boii voicemod ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NikosMaximilian View Post
    I don't think that this is bad idea if we see it through Hellenic or Roman eyes. Some of their geographic knowledge is documented.

    However, how would we guess what was the world view in 272BC for the Sauromatae, Casse, Saba, Saka, Boii, Sweboz, etc? It would be a very arbitrary decision.
    Well that's not too difficult. Where did these people live traces, who did they trade with,... Take Saba (as that's the one I know best) we know with who they traded and where they went. We know that south arabians have been in Egypt (the ma'in left a lot of traces there and even a temple), we also even have an inscription at Delos. We can be quite sure they know about India due to their intense seatrade, we aso know they'd must at least have a general idea of Arabia (except for the driest desert places parts) due to the incense routes. A minaean inscription speak Sidon. The minaeans being the close neighbours and not the exclusive south arabian traders, and the sabaean information on it's own we could say they knew egypt, the levant, ethiopia and arabia very well. They'd have a decent amount of knowledge of the Indian coast and would at least know the bigger trading settlements from greece and turkey.

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