Everything is predestined from eternity even one's choices, so they don't have free will in the commonly thought sense of being able to choose differently.

Quote Originally Posted by TheStranger
im also trying to find a definition of will or free will in which the rational element is excluded. we are free as a body i believe. i will explain more after dinner.
If you take a (naively) non deterministic view of the world, then human actions aren't caused or influenced by anything, "rational" considerations or not. So if you wish to go that way you can have it.